JackFrost

LOL@you

Worse than Olivier Bernard? Really?

That's the world we've lived in since 9/11

Welcome to the world of the western police force, and how it has worked for a very long time. A crime takes place, footage is analysed, facts and witness testimonies are gathered, key suspects are identified and eradicated through the process of elimination, and the chief suspect(s) is/are detained and interviewed (or "set on" as you put it) by the police. This process can be repeated many times. During this period the police will continue to search for evidence to link the aforementioned suspects to the crime. I also find it staggering that you're suggesting for one moment the FBI/police should release any evidence for these two brother's guilt into the public domain at this time. I would actually be shocked if they DID. I cannot tell you how many investigations I conducted as a D.I. would have been severely compromised if such a thing had happened. I also think the U.S. authorities' priority over the last week has been to stop any more bombs going off in public places, rather than spend significant resources and money framing 2 brothers who happened to be in the area at the time.

Yeah I have to admit I got this wrong earlier in the season, 'arry has totally failed there. You can bet it'll all be the owners/players/fans/pitches/referees fault at the end of the season.

Yep after he left us he was released after a season at Blackpool, played for a season at Isthmian League level and then retired. People said that he was typically one of our scapegoats, but he was genuinely playing at a level which he was nowhere near good enough for. Just imagine, if we'd have got promoted under Burley that season he's have been playing in the PL

Now there's been a massive explosion near Waco, Texas at a fertilizer plant. (where the David Koresh Davidian siege took place 20 years ago) Confirmed deaths and numerous injured.

Apparently they've arrested a suspect

On post 77435 of this thread you stated you'd bet anybody that the FL wouldn't impose the deduction at all.

Rumour is the explosion by the finish line was a Cordite bomb in a garbage can

For me Jos is a good backup but sadly we need better in the first team next season. He could do a job if needed in an emergency but the guy is just too clumsy/error prone to be starting week in week out, and I think Yoshida and Fonte are simply better defenders. If he can eliminate the mistakes then fair play but so far he hasn't and he continues to consistently make one or two errors per game where sometimes it has cost us and sometimes it hasn't. I hope he does stay for the next few seasons and I do think he's got more than his fair share of stick his season but I just don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter.

People in traffic jams that leave 30ft gaps between them and the car in front Jimmy Carr's laugh Supermarket pound trolleys Jimmy Carr 'Style-over-substance' managers that pretend they know what their doing when they clearly don't and use salesman's terms in EVERY situation. Deserted traffic light junctions where the lights are green on approach, they go red, not one other car approaches from any direction and 1 minute later the lights go green again Corner shops that make their shop assistants say "anything else?" or "Just that?" when you pop in and want one item like a bottle of milk or a loaf of bread Any football team managed by Sam Allardyce 99% of chart music PCSOs who cycle side-by-side on a road

They were discussing Thatcher on The Big Questions on BBC1. They speaking to people that were involved in the celebrations of Thatcher's death and the rewriting of history was just breathtaking. One bloke even said she was a warmongerer and claimed she started the Falklands War

I'd have thought they'd be receiving the last of the parachute money soon, especially when they had some forwarded to them whilst in the PL

Someone may be able to dig it out but I think McInnes said something like averaging 12,500 crowds wouldn't be enough to keep them solvent.

Also a self confessed communist and a Millwall fan. Say no more.

Anyone else hearing Labour MP Glenda Jackson's rant in the commons right now?

And to be honest I actually agree with the vast majority of your post, although I'd replace the word "declining" with "unsustainable". Personally I think Thatcher did more good for this country than bad although I'm more than happy to acknowledge she made some awful decisions during her premiership that ruined many lives, and this was down to her "once she's on a mission there's no stopping her" attitude. If only she didn't have a hatred of compromising and she could have been incredibly popular in so many more people's eyes. But I do tend to find that it's the "Thatcher is the devil's daughter" brigade that are the most prone to rewriting history and having a very selective memory when it comes to the reasons why she made decisions she did at the time. I've heard a lot of people in my lifetime spout hatred about Thatcher, yet hardly any come up with alternative policies or suggestions about what they'd have done with the issues faced at the time eg. whether they'd continue to pump money into failing industries that had been losing money for 20 years in the middle of a recession. I think barring the Poll Tax (which was a complete disaster) I actually agreed with the idea of a lot of her policies but there were some she executed in truly appalling ways. Ruthless determination can be so great at times and so yet awful at other times.

Sorry but that's absolute rubbish, I'm afraid it really was the case. Coal Mines were closing all over the place as early as the 1960s, the last coal mine closed in the Black Country (one of the most industrialised parts of the country) in 1968, 11 years before Thatcher came to power. The heavy industries had been losing a lot of money for decades before Thatcher came in and were very inefficient, partly due to the strikes that crippled the country in the 70s hence why Maggie had to wage war against them.

Indeed. LOL at some of the lefties implying Thatcher single-handedly destroyed Britain's industry, conveniently forgetting our industries were in big trouble as early as the 1950s/1960s and that manufacturing declined from 25.8% to 22.5% under Thatcher, and was still over 20% 7 years after Thatcher left office. When Blair left office in 2007 it was 12.4% and it declined nearly 3 times faster under Blair/Brown than it did under Thatcher. There were large scale closures of mining pits in the 1960s - the last pit in the West Midlands/Black Country area closed in 1968, and our steel industry was making big losses at the same time. By the early Thatcher years it was actually cheaper for us to import coal than mine it ourselves, and considering the recession at the time Thatcher didn't have any other option. Add to that we didn't have the technology back then to mine it anywhere near efficiently as we needed to make it remotely financially viable, the discovery of North Sea Gas, and the rise of the computer meant the collapse of our coal and steel industries was an inevitability, regardless of who was running the country. We had a huge amount of workers working in an outdated industry so it was always going to be painful. Thatcher's fatal error was the way she went about it and cut way too hard way too quickly, and leaving the industry workers with nowhere to go in hardly any time at all. I felt for all the miners and the steel workers but at the end of the day they worked in unsustainable industries and had to move with the times, but I also understand their hatred for Thatcher for the way she did it. In the end Thatcher had to do what she did but she got it badly wrong in the way she did it, and this is where her dislike of compromise became her biggest weakness. Instead of using anasthetic and a dentist's drill, she used a chainsaw and a sledgehammer and it became one of the biggest parts of her legacy.

. . . but in a lot of cases can't afford to pay the tax. That's why it caused rioting over here and was the policy which was the beginning of the end of her downfall, to the point where even her closest allies were united against her.

Something that has been all too often conveniently forgotten by Thatcher bashers. With the miners she cocked it up because she cut WAY too far but the industries were already unsustainable long term.

I'm afraid it's all too easy to blame Thatcher for how our manufacturing industries ended up. Our manufacturing industry was declining long before Thatcher came to power, I believe it actually started under Harold Wilson many years beforehand. Even if she did make some bad decisions back then she had to deal with it when the **** hit the fan, and besides the manufacturing industry declined nearly 3 times faster under Blair/Brown than it did under Thatcher by the way. As for Thatcher, an incredible woman considering where women's position in society was in the 1970s. Compare her in her prime to the current lot in the major political parties and it isn't a contest. RIP

Quite frankly she's flushed her career down the toilet. If you trip over a curb in the dead of night investigating a break-in you pick yourself up, laugh about it and get on with the job. There's nothing 'unlucky' about suing a garage owner after making an arse of yourself, especially when you don't have the intelligence to use a torch/flashlight properly, if at all. The junior officers will take the **** and the senior officers will consider her a liability. With this incident making national headlines and having MPs making public comments she'll be hounded out the force eventually, either officially or unofficially.

On football focus this morning I think they mentioned Lawrenson had predicted defeat for Saints in 18 of their last 19 games?