JackFrost

I think they found a torture camp near the mining villages recently

How inevitable http://www.facebook.com/groups/262800220412890/

Looks like spin to me, basically saying their spending the minimum to keep the H&S bods happy

To me that looks like spin to basically their spending the minimum to keep the H&S bods happy

How about taking sites like facebook/twitter etc. offline in the UK until further notice?

"BREAKING NEWS A 26-year-old man shot in a car in Croydon last night has died in hospital, Scotland Yard says." There you go

Yeah I had to look at that twice. "1155: Thames Valley Police say outbreaks of "copycat" violence broke out in Oxford and Reading last night." BBC also reporting that "Hampshire Police say people used Facebook and Twitter social networking sites last night to try to organise disorder in Southampton" Very good comment here Rob, London writes: You create a society where vastly overpaid footballers and models can flaunt their wealth and behave in any manner they see fit, and are still treated as near gods by the media. You lead our youth to expect instant fame and wealth, and instead they get unemployment, poverty, and no future. And now you act surprised when they revolt

Reasons will include some or all of the below. Greed, The fact that the chances of the authorities stopping them from doing it are almost 0, Their unlikely to face any repercussions, Their selfish individuals, They've been brought up in workless households and have known nothing else but receiving handouts for doing bugger all. Their bored and want to have what they call "fun" They want to jump on the bandwagon and pretend their fighting against the establishment when they don't even know what the word means Their drunk, Their stoned, They've been brought up surrounded by gang-culture/crime which in certain parts of the media has been portrayed as "cool" Their unemployed and have nothing better to do Their benefits have been cut and they think that is outrageous, what? their supposed to do work to receive money??!! how dare they scrap my EMA when all I do is turn up to college and do bugger all else?!! A culture of complete decadence that the Labour government invented and the Tories are stamping on far too hard, where privileges are all too often seen as basic human rights Woeful parenting An ever dividing gap between the rich and the poor. I could go on but I've only scratched the surface.

or did they sow the seeds of decadence and promote the culture of people thinking their automatically entitled to something for nothing, which the Tory government is stamping out and we're seeing the consequences Answers on a postcard

according to the BBC website it's spread to Oxford and Reading

Political correctness didn't exist back then. There's a big difference between those riots and what we're seeing today. The riots you mentioned were a direct result of the actions of an institutionally racist police force, and the riots were confined largely to those areas. Whilst I don't condone the crimes they committed for one second the rioters there were actually fighting against something. These riots are completely different, it's just the complete breakdown of a decadent society. None of the rioters out there don't give a flying toss about Mark Duggan, their only rioting and stealing and mugging because they can. They've seen weakness in authority (ie the Met) and their deciding to do what the hell they want because they won't be held accountable and even if they were they've got little to lose. It's all copycat stealing in various parts of London and other cities, the initial rioting in Tottenham influenced various groups of scum all around to do the same in their area because they know the Met can't do anything about it anywhere near quickly enough. They aren't even fighting against anything, they are doing what the hell they want for their own gain because society's authority has lost control. Most of it fuelled by cheap booze from the supermarket. What your essentially seeing in parts of London is a lawless society.

All that's going to do is stoke up ethnic/social tensions and make the problem significantly worse If just one innocent member of a family was repatriated as a result of someone else's actions it'd be another excuse for a riot

Sadly it's only a matter of time before someone gets killed IMO

They showed a video of a group kicking in a Dixons or some electrical store and walking out with goods. Didn't see one black bloke. Race has bugger all to do with this, it's a dubious police killing in a deprived area of London that has always had tense relations with the police combined with thousands and thousands of unemployed youths with nothing better to do. As soon as they see the police can't cope it'll spread like wildfire, and it has. Back in the riots of '85 the Met were openly institutionally racist against black people. Everyone knew it, blacks, whites, the politicians and it was seen as socially acceptable. It's a different world today even though I suspect isolated spikes of racism still exist in places. This has bugger all to do with race, it's a disturbance at a peaceful demonstration that has resulted in a series of copycat anarchistic crimes done by unemployed youths that have nothing better to do than jump on the bandwagon

confirmed by the BBC he's having a medical

I think the Quote facility has a useful function, would setting an upper limit on post characters (including quotes) be more useful? Also I'd have thought people uploading large images on the forum doesn't help either

Everywhere debits automatically unless you cancel it, this site did it with me. Isn't capitalism wonderful?

The only one I've signed is the one about keeping all F1 on free to air TV. Nearly 12,000 signatures

No it's Richard Hammond that presents top gear

Apparently Boro wasted a load of chances

Alphabetically, Pompey are currently bottom of the league

The one that would really be a state of ambition IMO would be Matthew Upson

They seem to be signing them on a Dailly basis I do sincerely apologise

There is if the original owner reports his number plates having been nicked and confirms he is owner of that registered car. With a simple cross check it'd flash up straightaway as soon as a copper went anywhere near it

Isn't that why we have PMs?