alpine_saint

Nice to see someone tried to answer these points, from their "enlightened" perspective...

You what ? I refuse to accept the word of scientists with an agenda, espeically when their thought leader of the last 30 years changes his bloody mind, and offer a basic explanation of why, and you lot throw your toys out of your pram about it. Sorry that I refuse to be bullied and kow-tow to conform with global warming politics.

Yeah ? You didnt show a whole lot of respect for the answer I gave, tbh. You just started going on about DIY like I am a f**king idiot that cant work things out for myself. People in glass houses, mate.

Congratulations !!! Our 4th boy was born on 19th May, and we had a big gap of ca. 6 years between 2nd and 3rd, who is now 2. If anyone for the club is on-line, I do hope the new away mini-kits wont be delayed like last time (seeing as the home kit rumours say its pants) ...

Hmm. Cricket is so slow anyway that replays dont matter. Replays dont seem to screw up ice hockey too much...

Well if you are advocating gas you clearly dont know what you are talking about, especially having mentioned "energy security". Wheres the gas going to come from ?

You simply dont get it. If that super-volcano under Yellowstone goes (its overdue) not only will it pretty much make the US uninhabitable, but it will chuck out so much greenhouse gas it will make the Industrial revolution seem like a cow farting in the middle of a pasture. In the same way but to a much lesser scale, everyone in the UK could go back to living in mud huts or caves and spending their evenings over a single wireless to the light of a home-made tallow candle, and it wouldnt make the slightest...f**king.....bit....of....difference to global warming. But at least when your family are then dying of treatable diseases caused by poor hygene and care, you can say you made 0.000000001% of time difference about how the world heats up. Anyway, there is enough doubt being cast about the science relating to warming/cooling and sea-level rises and what sort of feeback Mother Nature will produce that its complete hubris for scientists with an already dubious agenda to claim they understand what is going on. You're all f**king mental. Humanity will wipe itself out at some point anyway.

Yes, as I have already explained, I have been given indpendent recommendations by someone who knows the area I live and the construction of my house a damned sight better than you. No need to get in a hump about it.

B*ll*cks. You may be right to some degree about Blatter, but for me it is clear he sees the English FA as a threat to his power, but Platini absolutely despises the English. I think he animosity has always been there, but was certainly amplified by the Heysel Stadium Disaster. Some of you might recall he scored the "penalty".

Polish citizens are entitled under EU law to stay in the UK indefinitely with all the rights and privelleges of a UK citizen except voting in general elections. She has nothing to gain from the relationship with your friend, unless he is exceptionally minted, but lets face it there are enough golden-arse English girls around to totally refute that such behaviour has anything to do with being Polish. I am married to an Austrian who I met as an au-pair in Winchester. Her family is more minted than mine, it was clear from the start she was of the opinion that the UK is a sh*thole compared to Austria apart from the p*ss-up/partying, and at the beginning it was clear that the relationship was to her just a bit of fun that enabled her to improve her English, but nevertheless it blossomed, we got married and have 4 kids - in Austria. From what you have said there is NOTHING to indicate this relationship isnt genuine.

When I bought my house 18months ago, I had an "energieausweiss" done as part of the purchase. Here in Austria it has been required for years, and is abit like the energy assessment needed for the house buyers pack in the UK (did that ever take off). I simply costed the recommendations up as in the reort, recommended by an objective professional. I dont need to do it all again. Bear in mind house construction is different here and also weather conditions.

I simply worked out the cost of replacing front door, door to cellar, windows, thick roof insulation, more cellar insulation and solar panels against a VERY generous estimate of halving my heating oil usage. 19 years was the break-even point. Forget it.

There always seems to be an understanding issue with the likes of you and Bexy. I am not saying that you guys are agenda-driven, but come on, "your own research" ? Reading a few articles from researchers desperate to avoid having to get a real job by keeping hold of their funding ? Scientific research is one of the most dishonest professions on the planet. Or did I miss something and you or Bexy spent 6 months on the Antartic ice-pack doing measurements with the BAS, or with the Met office going over climate data, or cutting down trees and looking at trunk rings ? Sorry, you guys have swallowed up the "overwhelming consensus" which is agenda driven. My house has oil heating. I worked out that if I paid for significant home improvements in order to have a better insulated house and therefore consume less heating oil, I would never get my money back over my lifetime and probably a significant part of my children's lifetime too. When people bang on about solar cells and wind farms saving energy, do they count the huge amount of energy required to produce them in the first place ? The whole climate change issue is a load of b*ll*cks allowing bullies to exploit the scared and vulnerable. You want to be a foot-soldier for that racket, you go ahead.

Christ you are so naiive. If you were around in the 80s you would have beleived in unilateral nuclear disarmament too, thinking the US and USSR would give up their weapons because the UK has.

F**k me, I wondered how long it would take for the British Empire to get blamed for it, like everything else is blamed on it.... I dont agree with you at all, and I dont agree with Mintys assertain that the issue of scale is flawed. IMO you, Minty and Andy have sucked up every piece of emotional blackmail-cum-brainwashing that has been fed to you.

I am quite surprised that all the flags are St. George. I could have sworn the White Ensign was more prevalent.

Yep despite a few trolls giving it large with their "cue the wrist-slitting" comments.

Jesus, was that one present at the Battle of Waterloo ?

Was this the one behind the goal when Shrek scored ?

For cables, so no over-exuberant press photographer or ball-boy trips and breaks their neck.

An interesting clash apparently occurred at the G20 summit yesterday between Camoron and the stupid b*tch. He told her through a translator three times, clearly and slowly, that she needs to respect the result of the Falklands referendum, and she apparently answered with rambling b*ll*cks.

I wasnt aware my answer was agressive, sorry you feel that. Perhaps it was short and to the point, but I was busy. If you have taken exception to my "banana" metaphor, it was simply chosen to reflect my opinion of the values behind such titles.

Yep, you really didnt read the issues of scale I was making, did you ?

Yep. Good post. The UK is responsible for 2% of the earths greenhouse gas emission. Therefore a 50% cut for example, which would utterly destroy UK economic competitiveness and would represent national suicide, makes a 1% difference to the planet. That is background noise compared to US and Chinese emissions related to economic activity level. And UK government reduction targets are less than 50%. Really, I think the UK should forget it and focus on growth to pull it out of the depression into which its heading...

Hmmm. Not sure what sort of response you are expecting. One way or the other, it appears that there has been some mis-representation and bandwagon-jumping for green causes going on. At least it gave governments the excuse to tax the f**k out of people for while.