Lighthouse

The exact same argument that was used against same sex marriage being legalised. "It’s a slippery slope, it’ll lead to people marrying 10 year olds and horses." ‘Wow’ is not an argument. Absolute nonsense. When people say they would die for their kids, they mean, they’d push them out of the way of an oncoming lorry, or risk their lives to rescue them from a burning building. They are NOT going to choose suicide so their kids can have a new BMW and a trip to the Maldives, it’s a ludicrous argument and you know it.

Still absolutely no explanation of why two doctors would sign off and carry out euthanasia on the very, very small number of otherwise healthy elderly people, all of whose children are literal psychopaths. In any such case, there’s nothing to prevent anyone committing illegal suicide. If you’re genuinely convinced you need to off yourself so your kids can have a trip to the Maldives, you can stick your head in the oven or swallow a bottle of paracetamol. You can do that any time you like, there’s no doctors signature required at all. As for that documentary, I got about ten minutes into it and got fed up. It was a bunch of people who very, very, very clearly don’t want to commit suicide, trying to argue that the law applied to them. The irony is that all their examples of people saying, "oh I’d just kill myself if I was like you," didn’t make them want to do it at all, so it’s completely contrary to the point that they’re trying to make.

Most of the arguments you’ve put forward, along with those shared by Carr and TGT, have a large missing link, which nobody has yet put forward a credible argument for. There’s no explanation of how this law is going to lead to otherwise healthy elderly people, and those in wheelchairs, being coerced into euthanasia against their will. The examples you gave from other countries amount to little more than isolated cases of unprofessional and rude staff. There is a large chasm between some admin clerk suggesting euthanasia because they can’t be bothered installing a wheelchair ramp and a doctor actually signing off on such a ridiculous proposal. That’s not even mentioning the fact that a wheelchair user would obviously not consent to such a proposal.

I never said Smallbone was a good player, he’s totally average even in the Championship and should be nowhere near a PL squad. However he was the right player to bring on, in the same way that I’d rather go on a date with with Anne Widdecombe than Lilly Savage.

A law allowing people who have been medically diagnosed as terminally ill to end there suffering in no way whatsoever implies a 'duty to die' for someone who is elderly but otherwise healthy. That makes no more sense than saying straight people will feel an obligation to have a same sex marriage, just because that's been legalised.

That would be Wes Streeting the practicing Christian, who has a religious book commanding everyone to preserve life at all costs. "Duty to die," my arse, that’s completely unfounded nonsense.

HE looked good, WE looked like we were being outplayed for most of the first half. He’s not exactly the kind of player you want to bring on and chase down everything off the ball.

I fully agree, it's almost as if the manager has an entire squad of sh*te options to try and forge a team from.

He'd have been a passenger and Russ would have been slaughtered for it.

Big Les has done nothing so far to warrant being on the pitch and Lallana is just not fit. When you're being overrun, bringing on Lallana is the absolute last thing you want to do. We were largely second best in the first half against Ipswich with him on the pitch and as you said, Les was crap at Bournemouth.

We made one sub when 2-0 up. Fraser replaced Suga, who had been booked. Then we made two more after the tide had turned against us, then two more after the red/equaliser.

It was shocking. Archer, Ramsdale and Fernandes look reasonably okay. They wouldn't get a game for anyone in the top half but they're alright enough for us. The rest though... Wood - Crap Championship defender Edwards - Decent League 1 defender (you can split hairs between those two if you want) Suga - Looks okay in patches but some horrendous errors too. Big Les - Done nothing do far. BBD - Absolute donkey Lallana - Apparently a great bloke to have in the dressing room and a calm/experienced head to have on the training pitch. As with Walcott two years ago, thank f**k he's here because without him the team would be really sh*t and clueless... oh right. Fraser - He was a good option in the Championship but at this level... well he was cheap, that's as good as I can say. Cornet - What was the f**king point Taylor - A free transfer from Burnley. Doesn't seem to be favoured above Manning right now.

He gave a bog standard response to media questioning but basically saying the owners have faith in him. How you’ve managed to extrapolate that into him gleefully rubbing our noses in the present situation, and by extension me being happy with our current results, I cannot fathom. It was a standard, textbook interview response. Personally I haven’t listened to any interview with any player or manager for years, they’re all generic in the extreme, to the point of being meaningless.

I’m not saying you need to like him as a manager but you seem to be getting annoyed at a persona you’ve created in your own head.

How have you managed to deduce that? It doesn’t make any sense, he’s either sh*t or he isn’t. He’s either dreadful and needs to be sacked now, or he’s biding his time, waiting for a better gig with a bigger club, not both.

Five of our last seven home meetings, which is exactly the kind of ludicrous stat Saints would be on the wrong end of.

Yep. Serves me right for being patient and supporting our manager I guess. FWIW he will get sacked before too long, just don’t go getting your hopes up up when we do.

Whatever. Losing 3-2 with the last kick of injury time, after being 2-0 is just the most bog standard, off the shelf Saints result there is.

Get the team playing more consistently like we did for periods against Newcastle, Utd, Arsenal and Ipswich, the same as any manager we appoint will have to work towards.

Are you sure it was only four pints?

90% of our players I've seen solid evidence that they aren't good enough, hence I believe there is very little chance of us staying up. People wanted Martin gone after six games, I'm prepared to give him longer.

Saying you don't need a decent manager to get promoted is one of the stupidest things I've read on here. Burley had the biggest budget in the league when he just about edged into sixth on the final day of the season. We were comfortably in third/fourth and chasing the top two throughout the second half of last season, then we won the playoffs about as convincingly as you can ask for against two pretty decent teams. They were collectively responsible for promotion last season and they're collectively responsible for our position now.

Only three managers failed to score a point at St Mary’s two years ago. Tuchel, Rodgers and Nathan Jones.

I'm surprised he's not on the bench, given that we seem to be going without CB cover at all recently, but in all honesty he's a young League 1 defender and we're in no position to be giving people a run out just for experience. Ultimately I think this is just an avatar for our absolute sh*t show of a recruitment strategy in summer. We knew our squad was nowhere near PL quality in the summer, needed major reinforcement and after seven games we've got Wood, Edwards, Lallana, Diaz, Les, Taylor and Archer all NOT starting. Ever single player we signed should have been better than what we had and gone straight into the starting XI. We already had enough Championship quality 'options', now we've got nearly thirty.

That just isn’t true, it’s something that people say all the time and then immediately forget if it doesn’t happen. We beat West Brom home and away last year, so obviously they were, “due a win,” against us in the playoffs, likewise Leeds in the final. Etc.