Lighthouse

So was that on Boxing Day?

Can't speak for the rest of the forum but I've always thought he was a decent enough player. Probably a decent long term replacement for Davis.

As dull as that was to watch in the first half, there were some positives. Clasie had one of his best games for us and we were generally untroubled at the back. I also felt J Rod looked decent, even if he did miss that sitter. He gets into positions Austin would be nowhere near and I'd be more tempted to keep him than Long, given a choice between the two. Boufal' goal - belting but as with Thursday we seemed to settle for the bare minimum and didn't really pursue a second goal. Disappointing to watch and risky.

It's not the case. Glasgow is lying to gain attention.

It's fairly obviously the case. We have the same number of attacking players as we've had the last couple of seasons. The problem is some of them just aren't good enough, namely Long and J Rod. If they, and Boufal, were playing consistently well we wouldn't be having this conversation. If you are expecting more than one striker in, you are likely to be disappointed.

More likely Long. I half expected this sort of form from J Rod but as little as I rate Long, I expected a bit more than 0 goals in 1/3 of a season.

Chelsea hosting West Brom in the early KO tomorrow. Methinks Saints will be the first home team not to score 3... or at all.

My point was that playing your strongest 11 in the League and Europe is going to catch up with you eventually. Would I swap? Depends if they go down really. Anyway... how did we not score against Palace.

Live table... 17th - You don't need to rotate your players in Europe 19th - Why can't we show some ambition and sign players like Payet.

Why might we have won? Romeu was responsible for the only goal we conceded.

But will it have 2 tiers?

No idea why we'd accept that.

Everton now 3-1 down at Watford having taken the lead.

Sunderland are hardly going to sell him are they. Very little will happen in January. Probably J Rod out and one striker in, if we're lucky. That will be about it.

I think Hoj has received less stick because 1 - He isn't perceived as Mané's replacement 2 - he came from Bayern and not Norwich and is seen as a more ambitious signing. 3 - unlike Redmond, he has been far from ever present in the team. 4 - he doesn't play so far forward and the expectation of him to provide goals is less. 5 - he didn't arrive as a known Premier League entity with an average to poor reputation. None the less, most people who've watched us regularly have noted his poor form of late.

Both games against Arsenal Man City away Sparta home West Ham away Swansea home Everton home Inter... eventually All decent performances

If we bet them 6-0, I for one still won't forget that garbage last night. Would just prove to me how ridiculous playing for a 0-0 really was.

Supposing Shane Long had managed 4 goals, against Watford, Sunderland, Leicester and Hapoel for example. Not an extraordinary stretch of the imagination. We'd currently be 6th and still in Europa. I think that's the problem. We would have planned on a few more goals from Long and, to a lesser extent maybe, Boufal and Rodriguez. It's not that we're a striker light, it's just that too many that we have aren't performing. I wouldn't be upset to se JR and Long both leave, if we got someone in who was physical and knew where the net was.

To what extent these pundits actually watch the full 95 minutes in complete detail, between full time at 5pm and MOTD at 10.30pm I'm not sure. Especially when they have 5 or 6 full games to watch. I've seen many a highlights package when certain players did indeed look a lot better than they were.

Two dull teams who struggle to score. 4-4 it is then.

Nothing wrong with Sunderland and Watford. We were adapting to a new system, played much the better football and got a reasonable enough draw. You would hope for a win but then so would Man City against us at the Etihad. Nothing wrong with Chelsea or Liverpool. We got a point against an inform Liverpool (although some would have preferred to go out all guns blazing, as if we wouldn't just get spanked 4-1) and Chelsea were just that good. Beat us 2-0 in between beating Utd 4-0 and Everton 5-0, fair play. The 4 Europa games we failed to score in (not including that nothing goal last night) were the most disappointing for me. We should have breezed through that group after we battered Sparta and Inter didn't turn up for the whole campaign. Hull and Palace too, although I could put up with those as a 'one off, it happens'. The Europa games we consistently underperformed in all but the Sparta game and second half against Inter.

Also, what was all that with the fake penalty in the first half. Ref blew and pointed right at the spot, half the ground thought he'd given it but was actually indicting for offside.

It's not fair that Norwich get home advantage for the FA Cup game but rules are rules, we were aware of them before the match. We can only blame ourselves, couldn't beat HBS in either game.

Just a Lidl Andros Townsend.

Nothing to add really, which hasn't already been said. We've essentially failed to score in 4 out of 6 games, so we don't deserve to go through. In fact since the opening game, only our centre half has managed a goal. We are just crap at attacking. I thought Redmond would be a half decent squad player, instead we're building the f**king team around him. Austin looked adrift from the rest of the game before the injury, Long was as hopeless as ever when he came on. Sims had a poor game and what happened to that player we signed from Bayern?