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Lighthouse

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  1. I'm going to echo both of your comments. The last time I can remember something along those lines, aside from an EDL rally or Abu Qatada speech, was probably the Cup game against Pompey in 2005. The sound effects mic picked up some idiot making a monkey noise at Linvoy Primus, for which he was unanimously slated by other fans and the media. Yeah the press will find isolated cases and make them out to be a massive issue but that's what they do. Take isolated incidents are report them as being indicative of society. Nobody reported the couple of thousand Chelsea fans who went to Paris, had a couple of pints of French lager with their black, white and Asian Parisian counterparts and had a friendly chat about Zlatan's nose. I honestly can't remember the last time I witness an incident in person where I felt sorry for someone because of their skin, gender or sexuality. Most people Ive met either don't make an issue of it or just make light of it.
  2. I think it will be 'significant' for a couple of days. You know what they say; today's news - tomorrows chip wrapper. It will be news, in the media sense, whilst most readers and viewers wont actually give much of a sh*t. Then Wenger will say something about Mourinho or Utd will be linked to Messi or Karsten Janker will finally open that petting zoo with Rudi Skacel and the media will quickly move on to the next 'significant' story.
  3. Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Mourinho/Hazard incident. If you just mean people singing "get your tits out" etc. then yeah I agree people need to stop. It's immature and something a 15 year old would probably be pleased with but is it any worse than calling the ref a w anchor? On the other hand, I can't imagine fans signing, "get your c*ck out for the lads," at a gay player, so it's a different situation really.
  4. In what way are homosexual children educated differently to straight children? I can confirm I have experienced a stranger shouting something unpleasant at me at some point in my life. I can't imagine living a life of denial and sexual isolation was in some way better. I'm not sure how Eva is really relevant to this. She fell out with that tool Mourinho and left the club. As far as I'm aware the club weren't bullying her for being a woman and the majority of people are on her side.
  5. There are always going to be a few kn*bbers in a group of 30,000 people. If you get upset by half a dosen people making offensive remarks about something in a crowd that size, I would suggest you need thicker skin. A couple of idiots in row 15 yelling "poofta!" isn't going to hurt anyone and they will soon get chucked out and banned.
  6. The thing is with Brighton fans it's not actually their sexuality. Brighton does have quite a big gay scene, which I'd imagine stems largely from cabin crew at Gatwick, however the football fans are probably no different from any other fans demographic. I think if it came to an actual gay player, hardly anyone would say anything. Why, because there is no humour in suggesting an openly gay person is gay. The only path beyond that leads into a world of hatred and abuse which 99% of fans would not go down. From your username I'm guessing you went to a fair few games in the 70s but fans just aren't like that any more. We don't need fans caged in with metal fences, you don't get the sh*t kicked out of you at Millwall or West Ham. Nobody is throwing bananas at John Barnes and people don't hate gays.
  7. We aren't talking about Monday night fives in Texas or the Iranian Premier League though. This is Britain 2015 where 97% of people don't go to church and only a tiny percentage of those who do still hold on to the whole 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' ideology. I don't see why anyone would be afraid of coming out because of a handful of out-dated, hypocrite Bishops who are secretly bumming the choir boys.
  8. Firstly, it doesn't actually bother me but I don't actively want people to think I am gay because that's not who I am. It's the same as if you were going out with some mates and one of them spent ages putting all sort of products in his hair. This would often lead to jokes about putting his lipstick on, don't forget your handbag etc. etc. Is that being sexist, suggesting that you hate women in some way because you tease a mate for acting like one? I don't think your analogy about singing, "you're white and you know you are," makes any sense, perhaps I've missed the point. The closest thing I can think of is white guys who act like black men, wearing tacky flash jewellery, listening to rap music and talking like you're from a ghetto in Kingston. I believe the term is 'wigger' and even black people use it to mock white people who behave like this.
  9. I'd go with something like Stek Cedric - Fonte - Yoshi - Targett Romeu - Clasie JWP - Davis - Tadic Juanmi That's assuming J Rod isn't fit, otherwise he starts up front.
  10. I think yesterday we saw the Lallana from our first season back in the Prem, when he looked skillful on the ball but generally failed to deliver in terms of either a decent shot or a truly incisive pass. Lots of neat tapping it around just outside the box but basically all fart and no sh*t. Lambert is pretty much the forgotten defector these days and is no playing the same role for West Brom he was at Liverpool. Yet to score in a competitive match and now spends most of the game keeping the bench warm. Weirdly there are still some who think HCDAJFU.
  11. He has certainly improved since he first joined and people were spitting with rage that he wasn't immediately ready to play 90 minutes of every Premier League game. Certainly in the last 3 games I haven't felt as though we were missing Clyne, who has yet to find his form for Liverpool and hasn't really been in form since last Xmas to be brutally honest.
  12. Because there is a big difference between hating gay people and not wanting the world to think you are gay. I think most straight people would fall into the latter category but that wouldn't make them homophobic.
  13. I think there is a difference between mocking gay people and mocking straight people by suggesting they are gay. Those songs aimed at Brighton fans fall into the latter category but are they really offensive? Is playing on the insecurities of straight people by suggesting they are gay actually homophobic? I would say not.
  14. It really isn't. Unless you've been hanging around the wrong pubs or EDL rallies I'd say homophobia is pretty isolated these days.
  15. I think players who are openly gay will receive the same amount of abuse as players who are openly black.
  16. Looked decent today, provided a good outlet late on. Trouble is these performances are too sporadic and are punctuated by mysterious injuries.
  17. Incidentally this is the first draw between the two sides since another 1-1 at Anfield in January 2002. Owen and Davies with the goals that day. Milner is banned for the LC game for his yellow, so I'd assume it's the same for Mané
  18. Decent point. A fair reflection on the game IMO, we were better first half, they looked better when Benteke came on.
  19. So Mané misses the Villa game.
  20. Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!
  21. I hope our players don't share your optimism.
  22. Think Clasie has had a decent game personally. Battling is how I'd describe it.
  23. I hope Liverpool are only paying Lallana 66% of his pay cheque.
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