Lighthouse

So basically you have no idea what's going to happen but you're going to assume it will go horribly wrong. FWIW the bookies have us down as being around 9th http://www.justbookies.com/premier-league-odds/?gclid=CMWz7qKei8ACFSTMtAodNEsAsg

So who, in your opinion, is the only team in the Premier League worse than us?

We aren't as good as last year yet but 18th? We are far stronger between the posts. Unless Boruc and Forster both get injured at the same time, we will not have to sit through another Gazza performance this season. I've no idea what's going on with Morgan but as far as I can tell he is a Saints player and will feature next season. I don't see why Lambert vs Pelle is a facepalm. Lambert needed replacing anyway and put in some terrible performances last year when he just looked knackered. I can't where you got Lallana vs. Isgrove from. He wont be starting ahead of either JWP or Taider.

What if he is another Suarez or Van Nistelrooy? Why assume all our signings will be crap and everyone else's will be good?

How did you work that out? I would say our squad is marginally weaker than last year, simply because we haven't replaced Lovren yet. You have a very pessimistic view on our new signings if you think signing four more will still make us weaker than last year. How many of the people predicting relegation would honestly swap our squad for Burnley, QPR, West Brom, Leicester, Sunderland, Palace, Villa or Swansea?

I'd say 10th-15th

An area where people could sit with mates who support the away team could work, if the people in there knew the deal and accepted there could be a bloke sat next to them in a Liverpool shirt, cheering when they scored. It would be more of a 'mixed' area than a neutral area. However, since the ground is usually almost full I can't see a lot of point to it.

This is the kind of fixture Francis Jeffers used to start for Arsenal. I wouldn't get too excited.

So back then Arsenal was seen as a better bet but now it isn't?

Cortese would never sell one of our young English players to Arsenal for £16m! Sack the board FFS!

You have no idea how long any of these deals have taken, Liverpool could have been after Lovren since Christmas for all you know. The fact that we have waited until players were sold before signing a replacement is neither foolish, shocking nor unique to Saints. I still think we are a CB, striker and creative midfielder away from the squad we need but we haven't exactly been idle in signing players. Back on topic - This is an excellent signing. We now look good in an area we badly lacked depth last season. Boruc and Forster will push each other very hard for that #1 spot.

I thought he was a Pokemon.

It's a little bit Wile E. Coyote you have to say. I can't shake the image of a giraffe being launched into the bridge by an ACME catapult.

Because they retired years ago. We're talking about players we've sold who are still playing, i.e. the team we could have had if nobody had left.

I very much doubt it would have won the Champions League but Wenger was obviously being tongue in cheek. Would have been one heck of a team, with Fonte, Cork, Rodriguez, S. Davis, Crouch and Chamberlain on the bench too.

Boruc Clyne Chambers Lovren Shaw Morgan Wanyama Walcott Lallana Bale Lambert Sort of has a point don't you think?

Liverpool are already talking about him as 'the next Steven Gerrard'. Big future ahead of him.

No. Just... no. I respect him for staying here and not going to sit on West Ham's bench but it was hardly a Le Tiss-esque display of loyalty. He earned very good money staying here and got to play first team football. I doubt he has forfeited a monster pay rise. We wouldn't be in League 1 without him either. He is a good 'keeper but there are others out there, he isn't a unique talent.

With a higher capacity and at 1/3 the cost. The Amex is nice but it isn't that nice.

I think this could be one of those Turkish threads where he takes the views of 3 contrasting posters, mashes them together as if they all came from the same schizophrenic individual, pretends this view is upheld by the majority of the forum and takes the intellectual high ground.

Somewhat at odds with Don't you think?

We have. We have signed Pelle and Tadic What makes you think we wont spend any more? How much do you think we should have spent on Bertrand?

We also signed a player who had previously been average at Villa. Ended up in the England squad.

Again, why the insistence on spending money just because we have it? We spent £15m on Osvaldo and £800k on Steven Davis. It's not about the money, it's about the right deal.

Which is why we're taking Bertrand on loan and have the option to buy. What if he has a good season and turns out to be as good as Clyne?