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It is flat out unacceptable to sell him. That is gallagher, targett and JWP that the club have tried to shift this summer. Completely sold our soul.

Not happening if that is the case. Club's PR mouthpiece dulling fan expectations once again.

On the basis that we are sticking with this 3-5-2 malarkey, my team is as follows: .......................Alex.................... ..Matt T Bedna Yoshi Vesty Bert.. ...............Hoj........... JWP........... ..................Armstrong................ ..................Ely Gabbi................. But I would go for a 4-3-3 and with Yoshi and Bedna at the back.

Its not even worth betting on saints at 7-1 tbh.

Agreed and agreed. This place is becoming really unbarable in the last week or so. I am glad the season is almost here and doubly glad there was a world cup to distract people for most of the summer!

Agreed, the melts are out in force this summer. I would far rather have Hughes than Puel or Mopey. We got to a league cup final under Puel and I still binned of my season ticket because I couldn't stomach another season of his football.

I decided i was not renewing my season ticket after Puel's first season. It was the correct call then, and it remains it still. Struggling to find any justification to put any money into the club when i am so against the ownership and management structure.

Its gonna be a long slow start to the season.

RIP to him and all former Saints.

Les Reed's destruction of the team and the fan bond, coupled with a ridiculous trip to china.... This is the result. Just hope we have enough about us.!

It is amazing isn't it. The penny finally drops for some of our fans.

Someone posted a comprehensive summary of the financial accounts for Cortese's final months. Showed the first profit excluding player trades since administration or something? Regardless, we were all told the club was buggered financially and seemingly continue to be despite year kn year record player sales and TV revenues... I suppose, we were also told that no players would be sold that summer and we all know what happened when the season ticket deadline expired don't we...

it involves our club spending money. we wont do it.

All the evidence you need to see that Darlek is a visionary. Southampton. Average position - 17th In my mind, that table also shows that we are the 11th biggest club in England.

But Portsmouth are massive? That's what I heard anyway!

Some would say you just won Turkish's argument for him

Yeah, but some fans need to believe everything they are told by a club. Strangely they ignored the results from the end of Cortese's tenure though. Never did figure that one out. Guess it got lost in massive wave of white noise and club spin the club put out whilst they lied to the fans and flogged the entire set up. Never seen a previous regimes work dismantled so fast.

It is when you don't play them. Poch is literally point in case. Chambers, Shaw, Gallagher etc. Barely any game time at any club since he left. Relatively speaking.

One of the best posts I've read this summer. Hat tipped.

I heard it was near 100k from the second it was signed. Widely accepted value.

good for him. A victim of circumstance at saints.

We had a core team that had come up through the leagues previously. These were good players, coming into their prime, and used to winning. We supplemented that with some quality buys that were similar mentality and the best of their current level (Jayrod, Clyne) for example. In short, a squad of players all on the up. On the whole we ditched that strat the summer Poch left. And whilst Koeman built a squad of good players from what he knew, he somewhat plastered over the cracks - and we had the first signs of what was to come with peripheral signings. Since the we have been in an epic downward spiral. I can't think of one signing in the past 5 windows that matches key players from the end of our 13/14 season. This squad is crying out for players like Morgan, Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Jayrod, Fonte, Shaw, Wanyama etc in their saints primes. Our best players left are....? I don't want to be negative, we are where we are, and this window in isolation appears goods. I'll always support players that try for the shirt, but our transfer policy post Poch/Mitchel has been an utter F'ing shambles I coined it first (although glasgow took it to new levels of trollieness), but we had positive momentum (glasgow's "momentum curve"). Now we sadly have the opposite. And its harder to get it back than it is to lose it sadly.

You'd say comparing his stats for similar experience, teams, and age is meaningless.... but then put a kid down because he isn't comparable to Kane's current form, experience and age as a world class striker.... This place is getting more and more unbearable by the day. I don't know whether to laugh or cry tbh.

This thread should be saved for comedy gold. We lose a pre-season friendly when we barely have the whole squad back from summer, and some within the fanbase actually start abusing players. That is some classy, intelligent, and knowledgeable fans we've got

Again, so quick to write off players. .... He is very similar to Kane.... Harry Kane 10/11 - Leyton Orient (League 1) - 18 games, 5 goals. - aged 18 11/12 - Millwall (Championship) - 22 games, 7 goals - aged 19 12/13 - Norwich (Premier League) - 3 games, 0 goals - aged 20 12/13 - Leicester City (Championship) - 13 games, 2 goals - aged 21 Goals per game in = 14/56 = 0.25 14/15 - Tottenham (Premier League) - 10 games, 3 goals - aged 22 ************ 15/16 - Tottenham (Premier League) - 34 games, 21 goals Samuel Gallagher. 13/14 - Southampton (Prem) - 18 games, 1 goal - aged 17/18. 15/16 - MK Dons (Championship) - 13 games, 0 goals (Relegated) - aged 19/20 16/17 - Blackburn (Championship) - 43games, 11 goals (Relegated) - aged 20/21 - very comparable to Kane's Millwall season in terms of goals per game. 17/18 - Birmingham (Championship) - 33 games, 6 goals (Relegation scrap) - aged 21/22 - this is very comparable to Kane's Leicester season, but SGC was playing for a far worse side and being played out of position. Goals per game 18/107 = 0.17. - but distorted by SG's early saints games in the prem (at a young age) and his loan into a very poor MK dons side, also at a young age. Gallagher has had a serious injury and personal issues, plus he has played for worse sides. Despite that, his record is not significantly worse than Kane's, especially considering that Kane is regarded as one of the worlds best CF's. SG's goals per game at Blackburn and Birmingham is .224. The kid is worth a shot in the team. FYI - Shane Long (for years 14/15 + 15/16 + 16/17 + 17/18 ) 20goals in 122 league games. (0.164 per game). And I like long!