Saint86

Calling BS.

I absolutely hope you're right. That table is just a conservative baseline. If we are going to stay up we will outperform it imo. It will be a lot clearer after another couple of matches anyway. After the win against west brom, getting results at Burnley and Leicester certainly seems to be more likely... but that could equally just be another false dawn!!

I'll say one thing. We'll beat WBA in the cup.

Well, as happy as we all feel after WBA, we're still on course for the 36 points i predicted as a base line. The simple fact is that we'll either beat my predictions (and stay up), match then (squeaky bum time), or do worse (certain relegation).

A crucial win, managed to miss most of it bar the two goals in the first half, and the last 5 minutes!! Family! I think i've missed most of the stress and got the enjoyment of the result!

That article seriously worries me. The whole clubs seems so arrogant at the moment, almost oblivious to how **** we actually are!!!

Firstly, this is slightly selective as it forgets the summer of discontent. Secondly. you've done it now... Don't you understand? It was all Cortese's fault!! We never had one of the lowest wage structures in the league, lowest agent spends, and this never coincided with rocketing tv money's.... We were skint, massively out of our depth and on the precipice too financial ruin. Les and Ralph were forced to step in and save us... by destroying the legacy of the promotion seasons (whilst conveniently taking the credit for our rise - whilst blaming cortese for everything bad). They sold our stars, sold our kids, lost our managers... and totally destroyed the fans connection to the team. And despite all this, they arrogantly shouted from the rooftops about how amazing we (they) were, how we were better than the leicesters and swanseas of this world (both won trophies I might add)... and still.... the Reedists in the fabnase would lambust anyone who raised their voice in concern. So, you get what we have now, just far far far too late for the fans to do anything about it. Of course, that could all be hore****e and we are in fact on the edge of financial ruin and demotion.

Any managers?

In truth, my doubts were solidified following palace. But since the board were obviously not going to sack him I let myself believe he had promise. With that in mind, I would have sacked him during the Brighton game. Maybe on reading the line up, and certainly at half time. Any one of us could have managed a better result than he did last night.

Cortese was 100% ousted from the club. Everyone agrees with that. Once you accept this, you need to look at why, and at people's agendas. Case 1 - We really were financially in trouble... and that was the reason we were given for the multiple seasons of negative net spend... Case 2 - KL didn't want her money spent and instead decided to begin the process of cashing in. Additionally - What was LR's involvement? And if he had none, why the massive PR drive to blame and discredit NC, and to take credit for everything that came before? Case 1 - is plausible, but completley ignores the continued seasons of massive tv and prize revenues, and ignores the continued net transfer takes we are seeing even after we've "financially balanced" the books. So I'm going to call hokum. Case 2 - She sold us down the swanny - lets be honest, this seems pretty obvious? Anyone care to argue that she hasn't?

I can't bring myself to say that we may not win another league game before the championship. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

Sadly this. And it is exactly why we never pushed on from 6th under Koeman. We hate teams like Liverpool, everton etc, but the fans kick off the second it's not going well. Our fans are just too happy being the underdog, it is our mentality and a large part of who we are as a club. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

From the moment Lambert left, this board have done nothing but lie. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

That is a bit harsh on player like PEH, JWP, Romeu, Long. All of which tried tonight. And tbf, Tadic and Bertrand also tried tonight. Our defence isn't strong enough, and we aren't attacking with enough determination or tempo. Manager is to blame for that. But the board are to blame for the manger, the weakened team, and the whole arrogant outlook of the club. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

Do you reckon the club have put the VVD money on us to get relegated?

I almost feel sorry for him. But he's getting shed loads of dosh so I can't quite bring myself to it. Still, we look likely to completely **** away the best years of his career. He's moved here to play premier league football for a manager that knows and wants him... Reasonably likely that in 3months both those things will be changing

Is the whole point of money laundering to spend money? I.e. Chelsea and their wealthy Russian oligarch?

I'll judge him on whether Les Reed and co are here at the start of next season. Even if his intentions are good, I think he has an awful lot on his plate for someone so inexperienced.

If we were playing them on the weekend i would put money on us not winning.

Adam Blackmore needs to be taken with less than a pinch of salt. I would far rather they let Dave do the interviews.

I don't know. I'm being serious with this next sentence. Does he just have too much power combined with going senile? This deal with his son's agency stinks though, and given that, it is hard to keep ignoring the rumours that he gets bonuses depending on financial performance and player trading. But none of that makes sense from the point of view that his superiors must surely judge our current performance as unacceptable?!?! and if they don't why the hell not!! Gao must be quite concerned, if we get relegated he can get his money back sure (won't be pretty for us fans), but he must have invested in us to actually make lots of money... Not this ****fest we're in now.

Oh god, imagine if that actually happened

I said it in the damn match thread. The switch to 4-4-2 was made far to early. We had them where we wanted them and just needed the big man to unsettle their defence. Did we use him for that when he came on... no! We just hoofed it long and hoped he'd win some flick ons. Its almost like the manager is trying to get paid off....

He has been fired and Les Reed has been forced to step in as interim manager.