badgerx16

I think that there are 2 very important issues that are being clouded by the fees debate; Firstly, in a travesty of Parliamentary process, the votes last night were to establish the principles that £6000 and £9000 could be set for the stated circumstances. At no point yet, it was stated on the news this morning, has a White Paper been presented to Parliament to give the details and processes by which these decisions will be implemented - very 'cart before the horse'. Secondly, there is the cut of 80% in the universities' teaching budgets, which it is inferred is to be partially met by the fees changes. Given the first phases of the cuts are likely to be imminent, and the first repayments through the new arrangements can not possibly be for at least 5 years, what bridges the gap ?

If you have 3 kids, say with 5 years between the oldest and youngest, and they all want to go to Uni, how would your finances fare then ?

I much prefer the Stones and the Who - Give me 'Boris the Spider' over 'Instant Karma' any day.

But I don't think they would. I think that the disadvantage they have is that their parent's don't have the contacts, and they don't have 'family history' on their side - the sort of nudge nudge wink wink agreements that get you into an Oxbridge college because daddy went there.

Isn't that one of the 'concessions' the LibDems say they have 'won' - the original proposal would have uprated the threshold every 5 years, but now it is every year.

This is probably the biggest load of b0ll0x ever posted on this forum, and that's taking Dune & St George into account.

charms

Well, at least they are all learning one important lesson regardless of their degree course : A Politician's promise is worthless.

Concious or unconcious ?

That all depends on whether you accept what the leaked document infers, that Westminster was leaning on the devolved administration in Edinburgh to act in the UK's wider interests, or you accept what Alex Salmond says, that the Scottish Assembly acted entirely on humanitarian grounds and within it's devolved powers, in a situation where the UK Foreign Secretary had no remit to interfere.

The current ear-worm of choice in our house is "A Complete History of the Soviet Union As Told By A Humble Worker, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris" by Pig With the Face of a Boy : Brilliant video and very clever and catchy.

How do you turn a fox into a cow ? Marry her.

Provided the issue isn't with his router, or his ISP, or there's a power cut, or somebody mistook the Mac for a doorstop, ( easily done ).

...the lads !

Apparently on the one o'clock news they interviewed a LibDem MP who said he was thinking of resigning over the student fees issue, only for them to apologise to the MP on the 5 o'clock bulletin as it was an imposter they had interviewed earlier.

brit

On the radio a few days ago, ( I think it was Friday ), his British lawyer said that the Police, the US authorities, the Swedish state prosecutor, and several 'interested' journalists and foreign lawyers were all aware of where he was, but nobody seemed to be actively pursuing any legal action. It was also stated that the Swedish prosecutor had specifically reiterated, at that time, that her view was that there was no case to answer, as had been ruled in August. Subsequently, mysteriously, interest has apparently been renewed.

Sorry I don't - I'd just sit back and watch the fallout from the leak; all the confusion caused by additional security measures put in place due to the 'threat', all the panicked media stories, all the false alarms, will be doing my job for me. Maximum impact for minimum risk. And when I did decide to take my place in Paradise with the multitude of virgins, I would ensure I took 'true' infidels with me - I think that multitude would be far greater had I taken out, for instance, a US General, rather than a Danish lab technician.

I understand the point you are making perfectly, I just reject the premise on which it is founded.

But are there any companies with 'tenuous' links to the US that would not have been known as such were it not for this document ? I would suspect not, therefore it's a non-story.

The most powerful native British land mammal. ( Either that or we are grey haired, short sighted, irritable, tunnel dwellers ).

Even with one of these, who is going to target an insulin production facility in Denmark in order to target the US ? Go for off duty military personnel in Germany, or anything else more obviously identifiable with the States. By the definition of the full list, just about every economic or industrial site in the western world is of importance to the US, and therefore 'at risk'. It's far too general, and the response is predictably alarmist.

Thank f()ck for that

parking

Your recognising it is even more of a rarity