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Can I also join the queue to point out the basic untruth of this statement. My retirement age is currently set to 66. And then as I asked Mrs B last night, who would want Police, firemen and paramedics still responding to blue light calls when over 60 ? The problem with the generic phrase 'public sector', and deriving average statistics from it, is it covers everything from the world's top neuro surgeon to the lowliest CA in a back office somewhere in Washington ( Tyne & Wear ). The armed forces are a completely different entity to the NHS, which is itself distinct from Local Govt, the civil service, etc.

This is a pussy : This is a beaver : And this is a pair of great tits : Hope this helps.

This is a bit like asking 'who is your favourite Horseman of the Apocalypse' ? Would you choose Famine over Plague ? As for the thread, I think it's a 4-way tie for last place.

I think there is a lesson in there for some of us, don't quote the Daily Mail without actually reading the entire article. :lol:

A question for the teachers and 'significant others' of teachers : How many days of the summer "holidays" do you / they work ? I know for myself that my wife probably does a minimum 2 weeks of work during this 'break'. And the proportion is similar for Easter & Xmas.

Yet more balony : If your Whole time Pay Rate is: You pay a contribution rate of: Up to £12,900 5.5% £12,901 to £15,100 5.8% £15,101 to £19,400 5.9% £19,401 to £32,400 6.5% £32,401 to £43,300 6.8% £43,301 to £81,100 7.2% More than £81,100 7.5%

Well, as somebody who is generally presumed to be a part of the Liberal Elite, I need to provide some balance against those who side with the Brokeback Coalition ;-)

Haven't you managed that extra point yet ?

Nor am I HTH

I prefer to think I provide excellent value for money.

What rot. As has previously been stated my direct experience over the last two years has been a £2K direct cut in salary, no pay rise for 3 years, and the section has had an overall staff cut of 20% ( 9 out of 45 ) as our contribution to a 28% cut in the organisation's budget..

It's easy to over simplify the argument. The 2 primary issues are, as far as I can make out, that (1) the pension Ts&Cs are part of our contracts, and for those of us who entered public service 20 odd years ago were an accepted offset against demonstrably lower salaries as compared to the private sector. Now things may have changed in terms of whether there is a discrepancy between public & private now, but that was part of the decision making process when I started. (2) The unions are currently engaged in 'negotiations' with the Government, but the Government's position is that each of the points on which they unions are trying to hold talks have been declared by the "Ginger Rat" as non-negotiable. Public Sector workers aren't the demons that the ConDems and the Daily Heil would have you believe. But neither are they willing to be taken for granted.

Nail, head Nutshell etc,etc,etc

Or Bull Sh!t, depending on your perspective.

A- The country’s skint - Bailing out those bastions of the Private Sector, the banks, didn't help, and we can still start a war in Libya. Also, in the main the Public Sector pensions, other than the Civil Service, are funded from employee contributions and investment of the funds, the Government's only involvement is paying the contracted employers' contributions. B- Where in these teacher’s contracts doe’s it guarantee gold plated, recession proof busting pensions 9I only ask as in the Private Sector everything refers back to your contract - The pension is part of the Ts & Cs when you take up your position, though you can, of course, opt out. C- They get guaranteed wage rises every year, this year was the first year in 3 we did at my place (2%) - Teachers may well get a rise, most Public Sector workers are in the 2nd year of a 3 year pay freeze ( with inflation @ 5% ), and many Local Authority workers have actually taken a real-terms cut this year, in my case nearly £2k. D- Striking will turn the public against them despite the undoubtedly amazing job they do - My wife is a teacher and she supports the strike, but this actually puts her in the minority at her school. Don't believe the propaganda ( from either side ), the negotiations are continuing, despite Danny Alexander's attempts to out right-wing the Tories.

A Mexican, an Arab, and a hot gorgeous blonde Cornish girl are in the same bar. When the Mexican finishes his beer, he throws his glass in the air, pulls out his pistol, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, 'In Mexico, our glasses are so cheap we don't need to drink with the same one twice.' The Arab, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws it into the air, pulls out his AK-47, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, 'In the Arab World, we have so much sand to make glasses that we don't need to drink With the same one twice either.' The blonde Cornish girl, cool as a cucumber, picks up her beer, downs it in one gulp, throws the glass into the air, whips out her 12 bore, and shoots the Mexican and the Arab. Catching her glass, setting it on the bar, and calling for a refill, she says, 'In Great Britain, we have so many illegal immigrants that we don't have to drink with the same ones twice.'

Arch Enemy - "My Apocalypse", after that Therion - "Son of the Sun". Contrasting metal styles with female lead vocals.

auteur

Talking to yourself again ?

How many of us on this forum are alive because of vaccination programs in this country ? If we are to follow your logic they should stop as well, as should IVF, transplants, and any attempts at resuscitating heart attack victims. All examples of interfering with natural processes.

It's a pity that, as usual, the Heil has got it's figures wrong, the UK had previously pledged $1,114 NOT £2Bn http://www.gavialliance.org/resources/GAVI_Pledging_Conference_PR_and_Key_Outcomes_June_2011.pdf. Maybe that is too much, and maybe others should do more, but this is still typically shoddy journalism from the Reactionary Right.

Peace

The point about the Wimpey was the inaccuracy in the original film concerning Barnes Wallis trying to requisition one from the Air Ministry for the bomb tests.

Yes.

Genetics. Some climbers will corkscrew clockwise in response to the movement of the sun, and will grow straight when grown in artificial light, ( you can also make them grow the other way if you move the light source ). Other plants are merely programmed to go one way or the other, and I suspect your beans fall into this category. It's probably something to do with growth promoting chemicals being either left-handed or right-handed - mirror images of each other but with differing effects. ( The same can be seen with the sugars, left handed sugar molecules cannot be digested by humans ).