badgerx16

That is when you discount all the Scottish, German, Danish, and Greek blood in his parents, grandparents and great-grandparents.

stardust

If we cannot find a way to ease them completely out of the way, I'd go with this. Chuck is a joke, and the longer Lillibet can be kept with a pulse, the better. I also hope he has better luck with his marriage than his dad, his auntie Anne, his uncle Andrew, his great aunt Margaret, etc, etc. I suppose they do truly represent modern Britain in one way, they are quite dysfunctional.

mercury

You are obviously a great intellectual.

I repeat, stop living in the past, it only makes you bitter, as it's something you cannot get back to. The world has moved on, for better or worse, and so should you. Alternatively, keep spouting your drivel - maybe I should learn my lesson and just put you on ignore. Rhodes and Smith are dead and gone, let them lie, they are yesterday's men.

As opposed to the indigenous population, whose ancestors lived on the land for hundreds of years before that despot Rhodes started building his own vision of empire. From one perspective, Mugabe is merely doing on behalf of the Kikuyu, what we did on behalf of 'settlers'. Both positions are wrong. And as for defending 'british ancestry', there are plenty of Argentinians who have Welsh blood. Which side were they on in 1982 ? Stop living in the past, it only makes you bitter, as it's something you cannot get back to. The world has moved on, for better or worse, and so should you.

As ever, the politics of greed and self interest. Capitalism shows it's true colours.

That worked out well !!!

I would accept British involvement as part of a legitimate UN intervention. Going in alone, or on the coat tails of the yanks, would only make more of a mess. In my view it's really an OAU issue, they just need to develope some balls.

miss

Would there be any economic benefit for British mining companies is we did ?

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kinder

The problem with Dune's position is that what he is espousing is that we should encourage a change to a regime that permits us to exploit the resources of Burma, to the benefit of British mining company balance sheets. What they need is a Government that itself controls the exploitation of the nation's resources, and maintains control of the economic exchange with the west such that the primary beneficiaries are the Burmese, not the FTSE100. We should also accept that the "democracy" some of the lesser nations come up with might not be entirely to our liking. The main concern is that it works for them, nor for us.

Isn't that still being ket up their sleeves by the press ? Somethng, possibly ( or possibly not ) to do with drinking, or punches being thrown, or the wrong aftershave, ......

"Always with those negative vibes, Moriarty".

Well that's it, season over. 30 games still to play and a massive 4 points to make up on the automatic promotion places.

Some quotes from that missing National Curricullum set text we discussed elsewhere : "The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland with the ultimate idea of bastardising the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate." "The Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end...spying on the unsuspicious German girl he plans to seduce.....he wants to contaminate her blood and remove her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew hates the white race and wants to lower its cultural level so that the Jews might dominate." "The longer I lived in Vienna, the stronger became my hatred for the promiscuous swarm of foreign peoples which began to batten on that old nursery ground of German culture." (A reference to East Europeans) "When you tell a lie, tell big lies. This is what the Jews do, working on the principle, which is quite true in itself, that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility......" "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord" "...To what an extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, so infinitely hated by the Jews. They are based on a forgery, the Frankfurter Zeitung moans and screams once every week: the best proof that they are authentic... For once this book has become the common property of a people, the Jewish menace may be considered as broke" " "Here he stops at nothing, and in his vileness he becomes so gigantic that no one need be surprised if among our people the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." "The ignorance of the broad masses about the inner nature of the Jew, the lack of instinct and narrow-mindedness of our upper classes, make the people an easy victim for this Jewish campaign of lies."

Still time, COYS !

So they sneaked into Czechoslovakia and Poland without us noticing ? And to answer THE question, they were worse. Whether you accept my justification for this opinion or not is up to you, but I am entitled to it, and here it is : The Germans, and their fascist allies, engaged themselves in an industrialised effort to eradicate an entire religion/race from Europe, and if unchecked would have tried to extend this across the globe. Alongside this they wiped out huge numbers of eastern european civilians in a lust for 'Lebensraum', and took slave labourers from all the occupied countries to maintain their war effort. The British, probably misguidedly, viewed themselves as benevolent rulers of the Imperial territories, and after the war tried to re-establish the status-quo of dominion over the Empire. As a result of this, they viewed independence movements, such as the Mau Mau, as terrorists, and as in so many other examples in the last 100 or so years, once you take the standpoint that you are fighting such a group, common sense and 'reasonable force' go out of the window. Not ideal, not acceptable, and historically not justifiable, but in no way anywhere near what the Nazis were doing.

OK. Clearly, and concisely, what is the question ?

That would be like the benefit to the Iraqi people of having companies like Haliburton slicing up their economy ?

Their's was worse because (1) we won WW2 and (2) we defeated the Mau Mau. As stated previously, history is written by the victors.

I googled it first, then having seen the list decided to erase my browser history, just in case.