badgerx16

Do you think there is any inclination whatsoever within the new Labour Government to set such an independent commission up ? The only reason we had that pathetic excuse for a PR referendum under David Cameron was that it was a condition set by the LDs for creating the coalition agreement.

Blockbuster

Some things are pre-ordained https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7206gj5w28o

But, but, but, they used a precision weapon.

Sunak says that Starmer faces a 'formidable task'. He should know, it's a mess of his making.

Unless you can find a system acceptable to the Tories and Labour we won't be getting a referendum.

So I don't get the t-shirt. ;-(

So why say it in response to one of my posts ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/reform-uk-under-pressure-to-prove-all-its-candidates-were-real-people

Kinda spoils it that I didn't actually do any 'kicking'. Would I be claiming credit under false pretense.

Can I have the t-shirt ?

Who is 'giving you a kicking' ? You raised the question of what other countries do, I provided some evidence. No aggression, no barbs. FYI, the US adopted OUR system. The issue of whether Trump should stand is nothing whatsoever to do with the process underpinning their electoral system. The problem with you at the moment is that you are just getting too damned precious, and other than wanting the informed debate you seemed to invite in the OP you take offence or shoot down anybody who doesn't immediately agree with you.

Rat

On the question of what other countries do, about 8 times as many countries use FPTP than use AV, including, of course, the champion of democracy, the United States of America.

i'm feeling the love.

How many high horses are you trying to ride ?

Do we exist in a vacuum ? Plenty of US policy, both domestic and foreign, has an impact on the UK.

True, but your implication was that the story was suppressed, which it wasn't. The media chose not to run with it.

If it was going to cause problems then it is no wonder he didn't announce it. He had enough shit flying around already.

All of the countries listed above have electoral systems that are less than 120 years old, and for some much more recent, ours is fundamentally the same one we have had since the Georges, allowing for us now having a much broader plebiscite. If, like them, we were starting from scratch PR might look to be the ideal option, but in the UK FPTP is deeply ingrained, and has been for a very long time.

No reason why the Fail, Mirror, or Grauniad couldn't print it though. Or perhaps SKY or the BBC TV news. You can blame Rishi for a lot of things, but not EVERYTHING.

The proceedings of the ICC are published, so our objections would have been visible.

No he didn't, but the media did.