Wes Tender

Indeed, I suspect that is the case with you, judging from your responses.

All very clever from Mourinho, suggesting that they have been discriminated against by referees, in the faint possibility that some referees will be influenced in some way to award them one or two more. As 5string says, could it be that their players have gained a reputation as diving cheats, especially the likes of Ivanovic, so that even if the penalty is justified, it is not given? Two teams who have only been awarded 2 penalties and they are the two with the best defences in the division. Southampton and Chelsea don't get awarded many, but neither do they have many awarded against them. We would almost certainly be awarded more if our players dived more, or surrounded the referee, but in many ways I'm proud that our team don't do that; although we are as justified as Mourinho to claim a bias against us, at least we can claim some moral high ground that Chelsea cannot.

:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

I'm sure you would. Somebody would punch you in the face (probably because you deserved a slap) and to get even, you'd probably get out your heaviest duty semi-automatic assault rifle and fill him full of holes. Such is self-defence in America.

He didn't say overturn, did he? Do try to read and comprehend simple English.

Yes, it is. Williams has vehemently denied that his resignation had anything to do with his health.

I have read both of those and the background for the framing of the Second Amendment was naturally consistent with the historical background of the time, when any healthy young male would have joined the local militia to fight to protect their local community against attack by American Indians or European aggressors. Of course it was desirable at that time that weapons of defence were readily available to repel attacks which could come at any time. That much I knew already from my history lessons at school. However, it would be insane to argue that those same historical circumstances exist today and the main reason why there is this insistence by the gun lobby that citizens have the right to bear arms, has far more to do with self-defence against others having guns and prepared to use them aggresively for criminal purposes. Also the use of guns is glorified by Hollywood as a macho thing by films like Death Wish, Rambo, Dirty Harry, etc and is so ingrained into the American psyche and the gun lobby is so powerful, that it will take many more innocent children to be slaughtered in their classrooms before the clamour to change the law will take hold.

Nigel was such a genuinely nice guy and we owe him a great debt of gratitude for what he did for us. It is typical of the man that he talks about us without rancour and with fondness. I do hope that he gets a decent next club. He should have waited until he got a better offer than Reading, as his stock was high when he left us.

I agree. Had he come for it, at the very least a hulk of a player such as him could at least have put Costa off. As you say, his height advantage would mean that he would have been favourite in the air over even the tallest or most athletic of strikers. Yes, he produced a number of excellent saves to keep us in the match during the second half, but for me his reluctance to leave his line and the potential for a goal from his failure to come for the ball to relieve Fonte is enough to weigh heavier against his man of the match award.

The team was back to its strongest and taking a point from the top team away proves that on the day we can match anybody in the division. Our recent slump, as our earlier one, coincided with absences through injuries or suspensions. Now that we have back our best central defender, our best left back the two best midfielders and an additional striker, we are a force to be reckoned with. Despite those absences and a few reversals, we still had maintained the best defence in the division, with Yoshida, Targett and Reed filling in well as back-ups. The only main change was to drop Pelle for Long, which proved to be an astute tactic, as Mane and Long together carried the real threat of pace to Chelsea's defence. They were unable to field a very high line for fear of having Mane or Long run onto balls kicked high up the field, which in fact did happen a couple of times to good effect and goals might have resulted from better finishing. MOTD 2 analysed it well, paying particular attention to the midfield partnership of Wanyama and Schneiderlin, which is arguably the best in the PL. They are the rock on which our defence is based and there was little penetration behind them to worry a very competant back line. Mata should definitely have been red-carded and this was also analysed, with the opinion expressed that had several Saints players surrounded the ref, the decision would have been given. They said that Southampton deserved great credit that our players did not indulge in this gamesmanship, nor did they dive or feign injury to con the referee. Regrettably, Mourinho's team are one of the worst culprits on all three. Thankfully, cheats don't always prosper and an over-exagerated fall from Ivanovic failed to gain him any sympathy and the award of a penalty. He has to be one the biggest diving cheats anywhere, so perhaps the likes of him and Januzaj have reputations that precede them and count against them. The draw won't have done our confidence any harm and with luck we can go on another run of wins to put pressure on the teams above us. We have it in us to take points from Spurs who are the only top team we have remaining until City on the last day. Whereas the bottom teams had tended to park the bus when playing us, their precarious position near the drop-zone means that they will have to try and gain three points, not one. This will favour us, as will the top teams all taking points off each other. We have it in us to gain one or even two places yet.

I'm pretty sure that I quoted it verbatim. You might have chosen to interpret it that the sentence comprises two parts, but I read it that the ordinary citizens should have the right to bear arms in case they were required to join the local militia if the need arose to protect a free state. I think that you'll find that the National Guard came much later. HTH

Did you not see my point? It was that it should have been repealed decades ago, as it archaic. The Second Amendment was passed in 1791 and says:- "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Perhaps they ought to take that as verbatim and only allow people to bear arms if they are members of a recognised militia.

At least I'm sharp enough to realise that America's gun laws should have been repealed years ago. Here are some other choices for you to choose from, most of which could apply to those members of the American Gun lobby. http://dan.hersam.com/lists/not_bright.html

Are you a bit thick? My objection and I suspect Hypo's too, was the use of gratuitous bad language in front of children.

He is a real professional in his attitude and application, just like Fonte. He is improving with the more games he plays and although he would be second choice to Alderweireld in the current team, he is a very good back-up.

No, but reading this thread through belatedly, I can see that you're a sandwich short of a picnic.

Compare it with what?

There was probably an element of the Liebherrs being attracted to Southampton because of their cranes in the Docks. Maybe this Chinese guy has an eye on the Navy's laundry contract. (said he with an eye on a Clarkson racial sterotype)

No. It just needs to be funny.

Alexandra Wallrock for me.

Koeman's English is good enough I would have thought, that he could understand a double negative, at least one that is gramatically correct. (Rather than the ignorant use like "I didn't do nothing, guv".)

Those who get upset at people swearing loudly in public are showing consideration and thoughtfulness towards others. It is the people who use gratuitously offensive language in public who are the w*nkers, as are those by extension who condone it. Bringing it back to the BBC, they have a 9pm watershed for the use of bad language so that children won't be exposed to it. What a load of w*nkers they must be.

Me too. A lot of p*ss and wind about something really quite trivial.

Pap will be pleased, as he reckons that the level of support for the pro-Clarkson petition means that we as a species are f*cked. On the other hand, he reckons that buskers in the High Street belting out amplified obscenities is cool genius and that everybody who complains about the exposure of young children to that is a w*nker. No way that they are guilty of loutish, laddish, boorish behaviour, eh, Pap, because their songs express left-wing sentiments, whereas Clarkson's opinions are right-wing.