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Wes Tender

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  1. Really? Did he score a spectacular goal? What is the matter with the OS? Yes, he played a part in the T & T team when he came on as a substitute, but what exactly did he do to shock them? Stern a part of shock win against States, would be a reasonable headline, but have we taken on board a ex-Sun headline writer to have this sensationalism?
  2. Yes, the view in your rear view mirror for a start. Otherwise, there are hardly any parts of Portsmouth that are more attractive than their Southampton counterparts.
  3. I think it is dock related. People are finding that their pay is being docked for this extra stealth tax and that extra stealth tax....
  4. You can roll your eyes all you want, expose your "sweet" bottom if that makes you feel good, call us dribblers and planks and anything else that makes you feel superior. But when all's said and done, that is our opinion. The decline wasn't one event; there were some bright spots along the way. I've listed reasons why the reverse takeover started a chain of events at the club that still bear an influence today. If you disagree, then fine, that's your prerogative. But I always know that somebody is floundering when they have to resort to petty insults and name calling.
  5. There are three ways that those targets might be met. The first is by cutting costs. The second is by increasing revenue. The third is a mix of the other two. But as his remarks coincide with the story that Saints have seen the biggest drop of attendance figures in English football apart from lowly Morecombe, then it is clear that increasing revenue is not going to be an option, especially as the product is overpriced and no concessions have been made to encourage higher attendances.
  6. And it happens to coincide with the arrival of Lowe and the Quisling. But no doubt the real reason is the economy which has hit the central South harder than anywhere else except Morecombe.
  7. I'll give it a rest when Lowe, Cowen, the Quisling Wilde and all the other charlatans are gone from the club forever. In the meantime, if anybody asks who was responsible for our decline, then the people who I've mentioned above are the prime suspects. It is not a foregone conclusion that we would have been relegated had other people been running the club this past decade. That is pure conjecture on your part and assists your viewpoint that relegation was inevitable at some stage, so useless to moan about it. Either Lowe's board were not actively looking for the external investment we needed, (they certainly didn't seem to have the money themselves) or they were useless at attracting it. Whichever it was, that was a reason that there was never any money available to invest in the quality of player who would have made a difference, allied to the disruption caused by the inability of Lowe and the board to either pick the right manager and then to keep him. Then of course, the reverse takeover made us a PLC and that has hampered our chances of a takeover currently. The apple started to go rotten immediately the maggots got into it.
  8. The reverse takeover, without a shadow of a doubt. IMO, the most immoral and unethical chapter in our history, from which our decline and fall commenced and from which our current position has been attained.
  9. I agree. The current malaise in the property market is a golden opportunity for some to buy development land and indeed stocks and shares at the bottom of the market and bide their time for the upward swing that is bound to follow.
  10. If he acknowledges that we are weak defensively, what does he think is the solution? Is it just a case of tinkering with the squad, getting the players disciplined to cover the defence and track back, improving their defending and marking at set plays, or is it a case that we need to redress the deficiencies by loaning some decent defenders until the youngsters improve? The latter is my choice, as by the time the youngsters have improved their defensive capabilities, the result of points lost is just not the increasing possibility of relegation, but also increasing loss of confidence, which is debilitating.
  11. Green Tree Frog: I have highlighted the relevant bit. But of course everybody with any sense knows what the real reasons were...
  12. Wes Tender

    foresight

    Doing well with a good blend of youngsters and a smattering of seasoned pros. Despite the wealthy owner, it isn't a team of household names and other teams in similar circumstances have been known to fail. A good manager is a good manager in any division and success is not guaranteed by money.
  13. Wes Tender

    foresight

    Thanks for saving me the bother of replying to Somedunces pathetic little effort. As you say, there is no proof that Pearson was a bully at all. It is perhaps easy for a simple mind to confuse the possibility that he commanded respect with him being a bully, especially as Lowe is a bully but does not command respect. The difference between the two of them is that Pearson had an exemplary career and was a true professional. Just because he had balls and was Crouch's choice were the two reasons that he was not favoured by Lowe and why one of Lowe's main apologists is attempting to blacken his name with untruths.
  14. Wes Tender

    foresight

    You're making a lot of assumptions based on nothing much, aren't you? We haven't been forced to use our youngsters. We were forced to sell all the higher earners, but the money generated or available through savings could have been utilised to bring in older players, as it was with Perry and Wotton. Admittedly utilising some of the youngsters was a viable option, but the caveat was to use those ready for the step up and it has become apparent that some were not ready to make that jump and are costing us points. You acknowledge that it isn't clear whether Pearson would have been prepared to take on the challenge of playing the youth, so logically it is useless debating whether he would have had the commitment, shared the vision or believed in what the club was doing, all things that you credit JP with, whilst inferring that Pearson would not share those attributes. Contrary to your assessment and based on my impressions of his time here, I believe him to have several attributes that are seemingly not so pronounced with JP. I reckon that Pearson is a better motivator, more commanding of respect and would have instilled a better fitness regime and work ethic. I also believe that squad discipline would be better too, with a better resultant following of a game plan. But that is just my opinion of a comparison of the two of them Lowe didn't have just the one path to follow, or else there would have been several other clubs setting this precedent previously, but most have historically gone for a blend of youth and experience, which seems on face value to be the wisest approach.
  15. Wes Tender

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    Had Lowe kept on Pearson, you would be right, he could not be lambasted for it, as Pearson was Crouch's appointee. But having got shot of him and replaced him with an unknown Dutch duo inexperienced in English football, you maintain that he cannot be lambasted if that goes wrong?
  16. Wes Tender Did you mean on or oh? I often find that the simpler people are, the more easily they are amused. As neither of us has a crystal ball, my prophecy could easily come to pass. I don't think that it was that outlandish as a speculative opinion.
  17. I think that a couple of things that are misleading are beginning to be addressed and more sensible opinions are beginning to prevail. Looking back on NP's short time here, it was a remarkable achievement to turn around the team that was in freefall and transform them from a team of unmotivated losers into a fitter and more difficult team to beat in such a short time. It is also nice to see that the myths perpetuated by the Lowe accolytes that he was a hoofball merchant, that he didn't have the experience to work with the youngsters and was too expensive, are all being argued and overturned. No use crying over spilt milk, but if we could change Pearson for Poortvliet right now, I'd certainly go for it. I believe that Pearson in a decade will be one of the top managers in British football and we will wistfully rue the time that we had him here cutting his teeth and let him go. Lowe had the opportunity to keep him and if things went pear shaped, there was a ready made excuse that he was Crouch's appointment. But the problem was that if he succeeded, a lot of the credit would also go to Crouch and Lowe couldn't abide that prospect. Instead, it had so rankled him and dented his ego that he had been the architect of our relegation after a proud 28 years in the top flight of English football and that the exposure of his shortcomings had been so high profile in the media, that he had to do something very spectacular and succeed with it to redress his situation. In short, the reason that Pearson had to go was purely based on the personal ego of Lowe, who if his plan succeeded, would be hailed as a revolutionary innovator having the imagination to think outside the box and produce a system of developing youth that would break the mould that Sky had produced which was ruining British football. The plan might yet produce fruit. But I think that Lowe's biggest mistake was in appointing somebody who had nil experience of British football and whose background had been well below the level of even this division. There is the occasional glimmer of promise of what might be, but often we flatter to deceive and already there are also signs that our style can easily be negated by clever tactical managers as we are so one dimensional. But what is clear is that if JP fails to at least get us to survive and Pearson gains promotion for Leicester, every ounce of blame will rest firmly on the shoulders of Lowe and the Quisling. Naturally as a Saints fan I want the best for the team, but the long term prospects under this system do not include promotion probably ever, as any half decent players will be sold to keep us afloat, so we will never be able to build, just keep treading water until somebody comes along to replace these paupers.
  18. Almost exactly my feelings on virtually all aspects that you cover.
  19. I agree, but the end result is the same, isn't it? We should persevere with Mills at left back, as that is his position and hope that he learns fast. But we went too long with Surman playing there and thankfully it has hopefully sunk in that he is better in midfield. Hopefully it has also finally sunk in that James is not a right back and that Cork is better there. Dyer was supposedly a right winger, but he is out on loan, as are a couple of our decent strikers. I know that finances dictate that we have to get some players off the wage bill, but I am yet to be convinced that Scacel can not make a useful contribution. Apart from the changes forced on JP through injuries, it has not yet been established IMO that the formation is even right. Seemingly there ought to be one formation for playing at home and another for away games. We are so one dimensional that even when injuries should dictate formation changes, they often result in switching players out of their best positions instead, which is very George Burley.
  20. In the same way that anybody who thinks that he will do well is biased too? And instead of somebody being in for a shock if he does well, couldn't that equally have read in for a pleasant surprise? And what the heck do you mean about him being prepared to sacrifice one or two games? Do you mean that he is still experimenting in an attempt to find out his best team? The interesting statistical comparison for me would be one where we have a look at how many personnel changes each manager made to the squad, because as things stand, JP seems to be tinkering with the team as much as Burley used to.
  21. So you were lost in some parallel universe when Burley got us to the play-offs, were you? And take your choice from the following list of things that would have taken us to Wembley to contest a promotion spot to the Premiership. Leon Best scores a bizarre own goal that he couldn't replicate in a 1000 attempts Leon Best misses a penalty. Pele gives away a stupid free kick on the edge of the box, from which Derby score. The team are crap at penalties when all they had to do was score more than Derby. Even if there was an away goal advantage instead of the penalty shoot out we would have been in the finals. But as you say, that was nowhere near a team that looked like getting us up.
  22. The pygmies are also an African tribe too. And coincidentally the club is run by pygmies, both intellectually and financially.
  23. A very good response, Vectis. That's nailed that one and let's not hear this drivel any longer. Now for a couple of other points. Alain Perrin I'd happily settle for mid table right now. The journeymen will be professional players, used to this division and able to provide experience and cover for those youngsters who were forced into the team too early and are the weak links until they are ready. As for steadying the ship and rebuilding next season, all of the best young players will have been sold either in the January window or at the end of the season, so we never will be able to rebuild under this situation. It will be a constant struggle to survive, both on the field and financially. Alain Perrin Are you referring to the same Hull that recently beat Arsenal and Spurs and are currently third in the Premiership? And presumably Coventry doesn't count as a debacle for some reason, although Pearson managed a draw against them and the same against West Brom and had arguably a more difficult run of games than JP. Pearson's team was improving, whilst JP's is up and down like a Yoyo.
  24. Agree with what you say until you got to the bit about the remaining teams being average or mediocre. Logically for there to be any average teams, there are above average, average and below average teams. It begins to look as if we are one of the below average teams, although one could only really make that assessment justifiably at the end of the season.
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