Wes Tender

It's a bit of a bore fest. In the early stages we closed them down well and pressed high up the pitch, but then we have passed it around more at the back and Newcastle don't seem interested in committing themselves up the pitch to regain possession. We have been dominant in midfield and looked the more threatening. Ralph will be the more content of the two managers at half time. He can leave it as it is for the moment and see what Newcastle do before making changes to exploit that, or to introduce players who can give us something different.

I am grateful to you for shooting down your own argument. Thanks for confirming that the most important thing for Corbyn now is power over principle. What a fine job he has done trying to change his party's position on our EU membership from within. Labour has gone from a manifesto promise that they would honour the referendum result, to a current position that they will now adopt a policy of trying to renegotiate the EU deal completely to make it BRINO and then put that deal to the electorate against remain. Corbyn is such a man of principle, that he can't even tell us whether he will even support that deal that his own party would arrange. He really is pathetic. The naivety is all yours for believing that after decades in the political wilderness as a leftie maverick, that he wouldn't kiss goodbye to the main policy on which he rebelled, our EU membership, in order to get his hands on the keys to Number 10. Should he find himself in that position on Friday 13th, there is no way that he can stop us remaining on the EU and probably being forced into another Scottish referendum to boot.

I'm pleased to see that your sense of humour is in fine fettle this morning. Corbyn is so principled that despite having been one of the Labour Party's biggest Euro-sceptics throughout his entire political career until he became leader, he finds himself now being driven towards the party policy to remain in the EU, most of his shadow cabinet being pro-EU. If he was truly a man of such firm principle and totally disinterested in power, why wouldn't he resign as a matter of principle? Other politicians from both main parties have done so, but not our Jeremy. His priority, and that of his sidekick McDonnell that overrides his Euro-scepticism is the opportunity to impose their brand of Marxism on the country.

Snookered

The usual garbage dropped onto my doormat from the Lib Dumbs today. Among other items, none of which gives a single mention of Brexit of course, there is a disaffected Tory voter who says she will now be voting Lib Dumb, as if that was remotely newsworthy. Then there are a couple of media quotes. "The Lib Dem fightback is real - and it's changing everything" Sky News. "Boris Johnson facing Lib Dems surge" Express. What's so funny about this? Well, the Sky article was published in August, and the Express article in September. A week is a long time in politics, let alone months. The delusional girl Swinson used to have us believe that she could be the next PM, but her ratings have dropped like a stone recently. Their literature hasn't yet caught up to the reality of the situation they face. There was briefly the possibility that they might need a coach to ferry around their MPs. They are now back in mini-bus territory.

Long, who has eyes in the back of his head and wasn't at all concentrating on trying to head the incoming ball, had uppermost in his mind the thought that his first priority was to dive for a penalty. Godfrey thought that Long might have fallen over backwards if he wasn't careful, so he would kindly just place his hands gently on his back to offer some support to him. How thoughtful of him. I agree with JBS. If this was a glory team striker, it would have been awarded. Had it been outside of the box it would have been awarded.

A stonewall penalty. Despite feeble arguments that VAR can't determine how hard Long was pushed by Godfrey and how Long had dived, the highlights video clearly shows at 5.45 that Long had jumped to attempt to head the ball and was pushed whilst in the air. I invite any sceptics to explain how they would attempt to avoid injury landing on the pitch following a push high up their backs. If it is clear what happened in the match highlights, I am amazed that VAR did not grant the penalty; if they indeed had a look at it. We are lucky that we managed to avoid conceding the equaliser, or we would have been justifiably angry at this.

It wasn't a soft little push, it was a hefty shove in the back and clearly a penalty. We all had a good view of it in the Chapel Family corner, and even if the useless prat Friend didn't think that he had a clear enough view of it, the linesman certainly did. What is VAR for if not to clear up incidents like this?

I think that it's perfectly reasonable to label the girl Swinson as confused if she espouses the opinion that another Scottish referendum is a bad idea because of the chaos it would cause, whilst ignoring the chaos that another referendum on EU would cause before the last one had even been enacted. Her thought processes are inconsistent, therefore confused. Thanks for defining your definition of the cult you believe I inhabit. No doubt you would happily label all Brexiteers "cultists" for the same reason. You're the epitome of the archetypal arrogant remoaner, a member of your very own cult, those who seek to condemn all those who voted to leave the failing, sclerotic EU as stupid cretins. I note that you sidestepped the invitation to express your opinion on what the girl Swinson should do if the price of another UK referendum under the Marxist was conditional on the SNP being allowed another Scottish referendum

Gavyn trying vainly to defend the indefensible, totally blinkered to the diametrically, contradictory stance of the girl Swinson. I didn't go into the difference between the economic and political implications between our leaving the EU and Scotland having their independence, I made the point that her opinion was that a second Scottish referendum would cause chaos, but that she ignored the chaos that a 2nd/third referendum in the UK would also cause. Don't you think that a vote to reverse Brexit would cause chaos? Do try and address the point I made, instead of the point you think I ought to have made to suit your response. Which cult do I belong to, Gavyn? The cult of wishing to respect the democratic decision of the referendum? I'm a democrat and proud to support that position. You obviously are not. Perhaps you will be prepared to step up to the plate on her behalf and answer the conundrum I posed to Soggy.

Swinson showed herself to be a bit confused. She doesn't want a second Scottish referendum because of the chaos it would cause Scotland. But she wants a second/third UK referendum on EU membership despite the chaos that would cause. Her confusion clouds the issue of a second/third referendum for the UK, because as Neil asked, what would her position be if in the event of a hung Corbyn Parliament, the SNP made their support for another UK referendum dependent on another Scottish referendum, would she support that in order to get another UK referendum? What do you conclude from that, Soggy? Would she agree to the SNP demands for another Scottish referendum in order for us to have another one on our EU membership? As she wasn't capable of answering that, perhaps you might offer some conjecture about what she might do, as you thought she handled herself well.

As an added bonus, we now have Diane Abbott's private school and Oxbridge educated son accused of assaulting a policeman and her trying to shut it all up from the media. Not a good look for the prospective Home Secretary if the Marxist is elected as PM.

...who went to the event to raise money for a very good cause, and invited this so-called comedian as entertainment. But the idiot totally misjudged the audience, as they were not leftie champagne socialists from the inner London bubble, and a live audience. Kumar's usual habitat is BBC TV programmes like the awful cringe-worthy "satirical" Mash Report, where the viewers are comprised of your average leftie metropolitan middle class PC brigade, who are also your typical remoaner voters. It took a really thick skinned ego for him to imagine for one second that his brand of "humour" would appeal to that audience. But watching him struggle to maintain his dignity was far more amusing than his normal comedy routine, so from that point of view, booking him as the entertainment was a stroke of genius.

Just in a lighter vein, let's all have a laugh at Nish Kumar, at the Lords Taverners event, as well received as a dose of the clap in a convent. For all of you lefties for whom the poisonously smug Kumar is the comedian of choice, it must make excruciatingly painful viewing, watching him struggle to put a sentence together in front of a hostile audience that he completely misjudged.

I thought that was what you were now. It's not for me to advise you on how to cope. I'm coming back as a super smug, arrogant, know it all remoaner, so in all honesty you would be best advised to ignore my advice, as I do yours currently.

Do you believe in reincarnation then? What do you think you might come back as then?

The question is, are mediabiasfactcheck unbiased themselves? They are making a critical decision on media sources based on their own opinions. Who judges the judges?

You just don't get this negotiation thing, do you? Trade deals cover numerous different sectors and product ranges. One side indicates a desire to adopt a stance on a particular sector and the other side counters with their response to it. When you ask whether the UK government would abandon trade talks with the USA over access to the NHS, the question needs to be put the other way around. Would the USA abandon talks with the UK over that? No. Of course they wouldn't. A trade deal would be mutually beneficial, so our taking NHS access off the table would not be a trade deal killer.

I certainly would expect that. I gather that you wouldn't, so our opinions differ. There is absolutely no evidence to support your stance, so we'll have to wait and see, instead of scare-mongering, eh?

Oh look, an article by the Russian spymaster owned Not Independent stating that any independent company is able to increase prices on anything it sells if it wants to. Bloody capitalists!

Insane was the wrong word, it was hyperbole. Gullible and naive are much more apt.

:lol: Excellent trolling.

The referendum was a binary choice, Leave or Remain in the EU. Anybody who chooses to adopt a position not to implement that decision is not a democrat. You are not a democrat, so don't come this pathetic "well, things have changed, the thick electorate didn't know what they wanted, the whole thing was rigged" attitude. You know damned well that had Remain won by even a single vote, that would have been the end of the argument. You seem not to realise that the widespread contempt for UK politics is largely because the democratic will of the electorate has been ignored by their elected representatives over their referendum decision. Thankfully, they now have the opportunity to give those charlatans their marching orders. Will you call for the election to be rerun after a year using the same flawed logic as you apply to the referendum? Regarding honesty in politics, I was amused to read that the last leader of the Labour Party, Red Ed Millband, has claimed that he voted 9 times to get Brexit sorted. This has been quickly debunked and he has egg all over his face. He must have a really low opinion of the intelligence of his constituency if he thought he could get away with that.

So if I understand you correctly, you argue that the media bias is fairly balanced, not 90% in favour of the Tories as Shroppie claims. Perhaps his grandson told him that.

Me too. I used it mockingly to Shroppie, as he had used his grandad status to insult me.