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Only it didn’t need any clarification. And yet again you get upset when others criticise politics far removed from the centrist/moderate right.

Where do these views fall on the political spectrum? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/26/nigel-farage-under-fire-said-muslims-not-share-british-values http://religiousreader.org/why-nigel-farages-anti-muslim-statements-are-nothing-new/

This was what I posted yesterday which makes it abundantly clear that I would support PR even though it would give more of a voice to those who views I find abhorrent. I really can’t be any clearer than that.

For goodness sake. Just read what I have said. I have even spelt it out for you.

An equitable adjustment to the tax bands is long overdue and it is disappointing that Labour haven’t had the balls to do something about that yet in their pledges. Obvious why though. I think most people would agree that those with the broadest shoulders should carry the most weight. The trouble is more and more of the burden has fallen more and more on those who can least afford it whilst those at the top of the economic tree have seen their burden proportionality lessened. Hopefully now the idea of a trickle down economy is finally a busted flush.

You calling someone a mentalist is rich. Again, go back a read what I said. I’m sure you would see the “positive” if someone started repeating the rhetoric of Hitler or Stalin 😂. You see everything through a hypochondriac prism. You need to think about changing the lens. I shall spell it out for you. I believe that people, even people I vehemently disagree with, have a right to express their opinions. Other people also have the right to disagree. I start to have issues when people like you (to use your own language) pretend to be “liberal” but constantly jump on anyone with any centrist views and support those with further right views. At least have the balls to be honest about your true agenda as Duckhunter is. The bloke makes Attila the Hun look like a raging pinko but at least he has the front to say what he really means.

The main issue here is that he is 36 years old and has had a series of injuries. If they are thinking of buying him to play I think the money should be spent elsewhere. If they are buying him as a coach, is it because he was from the academy and the optics are good or is it because he is one of the best coaches out there?

If I wanted to silence them I would support their right to have a voice in Parliament would I? I suggest you make more of an effort to read what I say rather than what you think I am saying. As for the “far right” term that I use to describe much of the Tory Party now, and Reform, does this article mean that Europe is being taken over by fascists? The term “far right” is used to describe an element of politics that is well away from the centre but not quite at the end of that spectrum. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22p9dl415o.amp

I would certainly agree with the need for PR but would prefer to see more centrist “blob” parties than the likes of UKIP, BNP. Sadly, with a more democratic system it gives a voice to more loonies, xenophobes and flag shaggers as well as the more well balanced people.

It is an election. He is the leader of one of the parties. Brown MP? Would that be a brown MP whose parents were immigrants when I was making a point about their policy on immigration. You really need to do better Delldays. Before voting for any of these chancers, I can thoroughly recommend James O’Brien’s book, How They Broke Britain. A well researched dissection of how we got where we are today.

Given that Keir Starmer’s wife is Jewish it makes the slur even more unpleasant. Will he get labelled as antisemitic? Probably not. No one said a word about Islamophobia when he made offensive remarks against Muslims. Surprised that no one picked up on Farage’s racist slip of the tongue. When talking about Sunak’s gaff in returning early from France, he said that Sunak “doesn’t have our instincts.” That would be the same Rishi Sunak who was born and raised here Nige.

But no one had to die. Get the cease fire sorted and negotiate a deal for the release. No danger to the IDF. No danger to the hostages. No danger to the civilians.

If you don’t want to engage with me you don’t have to. No one is holding a gun to your head. And you can tell the other bloke that no one is running scared of him. He really isn’t that important. I have amended my ignore list while the election is on because I am curious as to how the usual suspects view it. I have no curiosity at all about his views.

It could well be Delldays.

Another POV that you won’t like. I guess that these people are ignorant to? https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2023/apr/24/un-ihra-antisemitism-definition-israel-criticism

You have just made some friends for life so well done. I am no more antisemitic than anyone sick of a conflict that has been going on for decades without any sign of an end. I am sick of seeing women and children being blown to bits. I am sick of seeing aid trucks ransacked before they reach their destinations. I am sick of being called names just because I think that an ultra nationalistic government is using its disproportionate power to commit genocide. You are another one of those people who use belittlement to shut someone down because you don’t like what they are saying. I am sorry that I do not have the monumental intellect that you do. I am also sorry that you don’t like my posts. Maybe use that huge brain of yours to figure out a way of not seeing them (here’s a hint, use the ignore button).

Let’s not get into a discussion about intelligence hypo, it is not your strong point. Reform have had to kick out a number of candidates for strongly racists views. Goodness knows how many more hold the same views but haven’t been caught out yet. How would you express those deeply offensive racist views if not extremist? Get back to me when you can be bothered. Yet again though you seem to be defending quite extreme views.

When I said you are right, they are not I was referring to his comment about rounding up immigrants Idi Amin style. Do keep up.

Of course you can’t because you have a weak arguement. Corbyn got and still gets plenty of criticism in here as did/does Diane Abbott and other far left spokespeople. Owen Jones gets stick. Starmer and his cabinet will get a hammering one they are elected. The Tories have been in power for 14 years so of course there will be more vitriol aimed at them. Brexit was an issue that had big issues around nationalism and immigration so that was always going to cause friction between the more liberal and the further right brigade. This idea that somehow the Left get of Scott free is nonsense, but as I said earlier, there is a greater issue from people of the more right of centre (far right to me😉) than there is from the far left at the moment so it makes more sense to focus on them. If it had been a small army of Communists kicking off at the Cenotaph on Armistice day I think you will find that they would have been called out too.

Good for you. So what are you getting so het up about? No one is saying you can’t criticise, left, far left, Communist, Marxist, Maoist, Stalinist etc doctrines. You just seem to get very, very vocal when people have a go at anything right of centre right. It is almost as if you have an agenda but don’t know it 🤔

More serious than being labelled antisemitic? More serious than you famous quote “socialism is dangerous?”. Grow up. It is a football forum. No one is going to sue you for calling people names. Help me out then. What do I call people who are clearly not normal, moderate Tories. They are further from the centre so not what we would call right wing. They are further right. Further? Far? Not quite Nazi? Nearly Nazi but with good intentions? You talk about the far left. Is that not as “serious?” What is your definition of far left?

What is wrong with the EHRC? Didn’t we play a big part in its formation? Oh! It doesn’t contain the word British! 🇬🇧

You are right, they are not, but that doesn’t mean that there opinion on immigrants are disturbing. They are trying to get seats in parliament, they are not likely to scare the old ladies. You and I both know that I am not suggesting some kind of Nazi regime, but a party that attracts the same kind of people that listen to the likes of Katie Hopkins should not be seen as some kind of cozy middle England home for the slightly miffed old fashioned Tories.

I don’t know how they vote, apart from Duckie. I know what they post.

Pointing out facts is hardly whataboutery in fact you are guilty of exactly what you are accusing me of. Don't you recall attacking me when I spoke out against the views Robinson and Hopkins only to say later that you didn’t know who they were? There has been plenty of discussion over the years of poor behaviour in the political arena. Would you agree that the large majority of poor behaviour has been displayed by people on the right of the political divide?