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A) I have criticised Yoshida for ages. B) What does the fact that I think that he isn’t a great Premier league player got to do with racism? C) Please tell me you are joking.

Really? They younger generation aren’t as blinkered as the old duffers who can’t understand that we don’t have an Empire anymore. I probably won’t live to see it but it would not surprise me to see us back in sometime.

Anyway Wes, this thread is supposed to be about the a Labour leadership, can we get back on topic?

Equal standing? What difference does it make? If someone is a racist, they are a racist. If some is a lefty, they are a lefty. Do you have a problem with racists being called out? Batman seems to but then he has always had a problem with Johnny Foreigner.

Have you got the figures?

I call people racist who I think are racist just like people call me a lefty. That is hardly abusive is it?

Ralph himself says they are looking for full backs and didn’t mention a CH. Do we know that we were actually looking at this guy? Ralph also said again that he knows what the situation is regarding transfers so I don’t think he is going to up sticks and go because of this. If he was he would have gone before.

If they do want to sell him why make him cup tied or leave him open to injury?

It maybe so, but as I said, this is hardly a forum for in depth forensic discussion nor is it the font of all knowledge. What you can’t refute is that the Tories have an old voter base and Labour a young voter base. Only time will tell if that dynamic changes. It obviously will not remain the same but if doesn’t change significantly your Party will have problems.

Ron had an amazing spring on him and great timing which made it look like he hung in the air. Both would have been subject to the current training/eating regimes but might not have been able to deal with them. If they could deal with the process of being a professional footballer they certainly had the skills to compete nowadays.

It is perfectly possible to disagree with someone without bullying them into submission. As I said earlier, all this is is a football forum where people chuck opinions, thoughts and ideas around. It is not a political think tank. It is not a place where the brightest of society come for enlightenment. It is a bunch of (mainly) blokes talking (mainly) ******** and disagreeing with each other about anything and everything. You obviously seem to think that you are superior to the rest of us and it is your job on a daily basis to belittle everyone else, giving your ego a boost in the process. It might work for you, but it just makes you look like a t**t. Try cutting out the abuse and see how that works.

If you have any evidence that the older people get, the more likely they are to change their vote from Labour to Tory, I’d love to see it. I provided a simplistic example of that claim and how we didn’t find that reflected in the readership of The Guardian and The Telegraph. I have no idea how Guardian readers or Telegraph readers vote but I assume that the majority of Telegraph readers vote Tory and Guardian readers don’t. I said that The Guardian is not aligned to a political party. When I worked there the readership was found to be centre/left. We found no evidence of a migration to Tory supporting newspapers upon aging. If this was a “thing” you would think that there would have been some indication reflected in a change of reading habits. You might be able to tell me otherwise, but I don’t know of people of certain political persuasions who go out of their way to read newspapers with a different point of view on a regular basis. Obviously people change their voting intentions for all manner of reasons. I would imagine that personal circumstances would have more to do with it rather than age. You might be able to tell me different.

Have you ever in your life managed to disagree with someone without finding the need to verbally abuse them?

Given that I have voted for all 3 major parties in my lifetime why would I think that some people don’t change their voting habits? Also where is the evidence that vast swathes of people change from left to right when they get older? They used to say that at The Telegraph to try and persuade themselves that their dying readership would be replenished by new readers in middle age. Not so. Young Guardian readers become old Guardian readers and do not migrate to The Telegraph. Certainly not in numbers to make any difference.

Apparently Nigel Farage applied to join the Tories pre election in order to have a say in the leadership contest but the Tories turned his application down.

Duckie said he was going to. I don’t know if he did or not. Still, things are looking brighter. From the recent voting stats if only over 65 voters voted there would be virtually no Labour Party but if only 18-25 year olds voted it would wipe out the Tory Party. The Tories are dying out as long as Labour can prevent their support changing horses in mid life.

People who say they vote Tory and then pay a couple of quid to influence the vote of the Labour leadership so that someone unelectable gets the gig.

A friend of mine’s young daughter often says, “never trust a tomato.”

I don’t know about the BNP, but didn’t many right supporters join the Labour Party so that they could try and influence the leadership vote? Or was that just Duckie

It’s just a football forum. But then you know that.

You are hardly a Chuckle Brother yourself mate.

It was hypothetical and to do with electability. Lighten up CB!

Why? Many were predicting a hung parliament and if Labour had hoovered up the Get Brexit Done votes who knows what would have happened. I know you think that Corbyn was unelectable, but Johnson managed it.

Trans?

Long-Bailey has made a pitch to get rid of the House of Lords. No bad thing but she really should be focussing on issues which will turn around Labour’s fortune and this is hardly a major issue for them at the moment.