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But then you also thought that Pelle was rubbish, so perhaps not the best judge of a player?

Wasn’t the “Southampton Way” all about living within our means and being a self sustaining club? In which case nothing has changed. Anyone who thought Mr Gao was going to come in and spend vast amounts of dosh were sadly deluded.

He is only happy when he finds something to moan about, which is pretty much all the time.

To be fair hypo, you are one of the biggest ***** on here.

He said he never met with the IRA. He said he met with Sinn Fein.

Do you think he was the only politician to meet with them?

I was going to reply to your post but it seems you have changed it completely? I dont think it is fair to say that nothing he said came true. If anything he got stick for supposedly saying things that were already in the public domain. Anyway, in answer to the post that you posted originally - I was talking about his posts on Sotonians as I believe that, and Twitter, were the only places he posted. I think some of his stuff ended up copied and pasted on here. No I dont know who Joseph Smith is. Should I? Can I just say that you (and Scotty - and no Scotty, I am not Jack) have constantly completely missed my point. I am not saying that everything he said, or anything any ITKers say was or is definately true. I am saying that people should not be hounded off of an internet forum just because some people dont believe them. I have defended Jack because, in his non ITK posts, he came across as a normal, decent bloke and his posts were always an interesting read. I can't put it any more simply than this but if you want to continue to just focus on the ITK stuff then perhaps that shows that reason goes out of the window with some posters when the ITK subject is broached. Probably time to move on.

Oh but it is UJ. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? But that is not the point. You clearly believe that he made it all up. I still have an open mind but agree that you could well be right. The point however is that he was hounded off of a forum when he hadn't done anyone any harm. There are people on here who constantly have a pop at others and are the kind of people who, if they drank in your local, you would change pubs, and they get away with it scot free. Come on and say you are ITK and all of a sudden you set yourself up for a right kicking if you are not believed. You must have read JS's non ITK stuff on the other forum, wouldn't you say he came a cross as a decent bloke? What is wrong with saying sorry, I dont believe that ITK stuff but carrying on a treating him respectfully on the other threads? Forget horses and zebras, think human beings.

Not heard of irony Duckster? Or perhaps we are to believe that you have been ennobled and hunt wild fowl?

You could well ne right UJ, but do you have any hard evidence to prove either that he was making it up or that he wasnt being fed info by a third party? I am more concerned about the grief he got for it. Instead of just saying whatever and leaving him to his fantasies (if that what they were) he got bullied to the point where he felt that he needed to leave that forum. And what if there was a third party in reality and that person was winding him up? If someone says I am going to give you some information and you can take it or leave it, why cant some people just leave it if they dont believe it? Why do they feel the need to keep having a pop? Ok, some people are constantly and clearly trolling and probably deserve all they get, but this guy came across as a decent bloke and not the normal internet t**t who does this stuff and I dont think that he deserved the pitch fork treatment. Ok, off my high horse now

There are clearly some obvious WUMs here but some not so obvious WUMs have also been caught up in the crossfire over the years. As for getting on my high horse, I stopped paying my fiver some time ago and know of a number of posters who no longer post here down to those who just want to spoil this place for everyone else. Perhaps if more people stood up to those he insist on being arses then things might improve around here? As one of the posters who likes to have constant digs at others you come across as a bit of a hypercrite Sherlock.

Yep, a WUM is a WUM. But is someone who, in good faith, passes on information given them by a third party a WUM? I really dont know if that was the case with JS but it is clearly the case with some who just think they are being helpful and are being stitched up themselves. In the case of JS, his normal posts were fine and he showed no sign of being an attention seeking t**t. If you park the ITK stuff, he was a popular poster on another site and I wouldnt say that he wasn't missed. I am sure we have all been around these sites long enough to make our own decisions about who to believe and who not to believe. The problem with hounding out people who claim to be ITK is that some who are genuine get undeserved grief and stop posting what they know.

Maybe so Jeff, but as you say, he always provided an entertaining read and didn’t do anyone any harm. As with any ITK info, we can take it or leave it. FTF - he got the new manager wrong on one occasion - well, his “source” did (Pellegrino instead of Puel, but I am not 100% sure). There was a lot of info behind the scenes on the Fonte situation that was interesting (if true). It was a while back now but from what I remember it was mostly stuff going on behind the scenes rather than specific transfer stuff. His “source” wanted to get the clubs side of the story out there without being too official about it apparently. BS or not, he was always a good read. Seems to have fallen off the planet now though. Whatever was going on with Jack, he did come across as a bloke you would like to have a pint with and not just a run of the mill WUM.

No I dont spend my time on this forum accusing people of having multiple accounts. I have accused one person of having multiple accounts. Strangely enough, I accused you and him of being the same person. An accusation is an accusation. It is not a lie. If it is wrong it is wrong. It is not a lie. There are plenty of bigger bull****ters on here than me. You are one of them. You accuse me of condescension but again, you are one of the biggest condescending posters on here. Funny how you pick your targets and leave certain posters well alone isnt it? Perhaps you do have a multiple log in after all. And what has this have to do with the topic of ITKs? If you want to support the hounding of ITKners then do so. If you want to attack me for being condescending or bull****ting, do so where you think I am being condescending or bull****ting. Here I am supporting those who claim to be ITK to be able to post without getting a heap of abuse. Do you have a problem with that?

Jack ****t didn’t post here, he used to post in Sotonians. I feel sorry for people who post with good intent only to get slagged off and called liars by people who have no clue. I can only assume some people are jealous. If you don’t believe a post fine, but why hound others away? Jack was a perfect case in point. He made it very clear that he was posting in good faith but that he was only passing on info and to believe it or not as you wished. He ended up getting chased away. I don’t think he even posts on Twitter any more. Perhaps you should chase the people who really do lie and have a massive effect on world affairs instead of backing them up (eh hypo?).

So a new thread for ITK info with no ITK info but plenty of slagging of those who say they are ITK. Sounds about right!

Bloody immigrants......

Blimey, you have managed to make Alpine sound like an upbeat, happy clapping optimist!

Yet he managed to be decent for Celtic and got into the England squad. Strange that highly paid professional footballers took so long to find him out? Perhaps he just lost his confidence and form? I remember a certain hot player called Torres going from hero to zero too. Did he get found out?

You said it was £100k a week. You then said that ITKs on here said it is £95k a week. You are now saying yourself that it is £95k. Mess. Given that our previous highest earner was supposedly on around £65k I find either of these figures hard to believe, especially as we as a club have a reputation for not paying high transfer fees or wages. Even in todays crazy market £100k a week is a big wage. The poster who said it was £70k a week gets my vote for the most believable wage for FF. The club had been heavily criticised for not tying players down for longer and clearly changed their policy to do something about it. Sadly it backfired but if (and it is a very big if) FF had rediscovered his original form it would have been a good move. Still, hopefully lesson learned and time to move on.

I cannot believe we are paying anyone £100k a week.

Despite the wonderful weather you can always rely on Alpine to add a dark cloud. Let me get this right. When our recruitment has been successful we have been lucky but when it isnt, we arent unlucky, we are just useless? I dont think anyone has a problem with the club being criticised. What we have a problem with is the so called fans who do nothing but criticise the club and who vanish when things are going well. I swear that they get some kind of perverse pleasure from finding fault and wallowing in it. At what point are these people going to realise that if you support clubs like Southampton, Crystal Palace, WBA etc this stuff goes with the territory. Moaning and whinging doesnt change anything. If it did we would have won the Premiership every year since its inception! If you really feel that you have to criticise constantly, then maybe try constructive criticism for a change rather than the usual wrist slitting dramatics? We haven't kicked a ball in anger in the Premiership in the new season yet but to read some posters you would think that we are already relegated. Seriously, why do you bother? There must be other things out there that you can find some pleasure in other than running down a club that you say you support.

I read recently that only 40% of Premiership transfers are “successful.” It didn’t define what “successful was though but you get the drift. Less than half work out the way you would like them to. We aren’t alone in buying duds.

Lol. Unlike you to jump straight in and support your right wing buddy. She is the Shadow Hoe Secretary so it is her job to raise this issue. If your mate had bothered to look at the story before posting his usual knee jerk response he would have noted the cross party condemnation too. Still following me around Internet forums I see.

Unlike you to jump to conclusions.