sadoldgit

I worked at The Telegraph for a while and they used to believe this. They used to think that people started out reading The Guardian when they were younger but changed to The Telegraph as they "matured." There were two problems with this assumption. No 1, if true they were inheriting a dying readership and No 2 no one who grew up reading The Guardian would be seen dead reading The Telegraph. I think many people become less tolerant and more liable to speak their true mind but I don't think people go from being left wing to right wing just down to age. As a side note, I spent 22 years at The Guardian and we never gave The Telegraph a second thought. We were looking to take sales from The Times but mostly sought to convert new readers from the new intake of University students each year. Until The Independent was launched we really didn't feel that we had any direct competition as the Broadsheet market was pretty much well determined. That was in Circulation. Where we were competing was for advertising and when a very clever lady called Caroline Marland (later to become our CEO) discovered that The Telegraph's readership were mostly too old for the jobs they were advertising, we cleaned up - mainly because we had a younger readership profile. I spent a few months with The Telegraph before moving on to The Spectator and every sales conference involved talking about The Guardian and how they were planning to take older readership from them. Didn't happen.

This is the Daily Mail were are talking about. They often "imply" a lot. I will leave it at that.

elton

This all comes down to contract length. If we sign a contract for a job for three years it means we work for that company for three years. Why should three years mean two years in football? I get it when it comes to players because it effects their value in the transfer market but why should it make a difference to a manager? We know that the job is precarious and that they can be sacked at any point determined by results. You can even be sacked after winning the FA Cup. Seems odd that there is so much consternation if a manager says he is happy to work out his contract if he is doing a good job. If the club knows that Ron is going next year they can make plans well in advance and hopefully he will continue to build the club up and leave it in a better shape than he found it. That is his job. That is what we pay him for. He still has 33.3% of his time with is left to run. Why get rid when things are going well just because he might not sign an extension to his contract?

Given that you live in Austria I am surprised that you care. Will you get kicked up if we leave Europe?

For those who knock England all of the time I wonder if they watched Alfs Boys last night? For those of us of a certain age that was a lovely trip down memory lane but it was interesting to hear Motty say that the crowds didn't really get interested until we got further in the competition and you could have walked up to the gate and bought a ticket on the night for the Uruguay match. If we progress in the competition I am sure more people will start to care. As for those who keep using the word "Woy" to knock the manager, what is this? A f*cking kindergarten? Grow up!

muffin

Just like it was last summer and the summer before that? A disaster is when a plane crashes. A bit of perspective is required.

How do you know that RK will not sign a new contract. If he doesn't why does that mean that Mane wouldn't sign a new contract?

drug

truth

Happy days. How times have changed!!!

circumstance

It is easier to keep a player when their options are limited. If it is true that he has the chance of CL football why wouldn't he want to take it? Are clubs like Spuds interested in players like JWP? Players might dream of playing for bigger clubs, but that is only going to happen if big clubs want them which is precisely why we lost Clyne, Lallana, Lovren and Morgan. Re Chambers I have a feeling we were happy to let him go and given his performances at Arsenal I can see why. I am not saying that JWP would have signed a new contract if Manchester United had been after him because I don't know, but his decision to stay would have been harder. With one year on the contract and CL football knocking I think more players than just Vic would be tempted.

To be fair, how many players wouldn't go to a bigger club if the chance was there? That's how we also recruit players - we sign them because we are a bigger club than the one they are at.

I prefer Ron to be honest so am thankful that Poch left.

Someone needs to remind Vic that Liverpool aren't in Europe next season and that Spuds will choke again!

methane

Not sure why there is an assumption that something is going on behind the scenes when a player is left out. Why cant it just be that the manager thinks that another player deserves to be picked in their place?

nile

alt J

No proof whatsoever that the BBC "hates us." The article is about Leicester being shown the first most times and Stoke (the BBC must really hate them) being shown last the most times. We were shown first one time. Tottenham twice. Watford once. West Brom not at all. But let's make this about the BBC and us eh?

insert

Not that good then.