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For those who have a problem with the far right label maybe best avoid this article. It comes from the stable of the same people who own the Daily Mail though. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-wants-revolution-in-europe-the-far-right-will-help-him-get-it/ar-AA1Skmxt?cvid=3f69c721694f4dd5b4da9fe88fe6c20e&ocid=hpmsn

In the most simplistic terms the people pulling the triggers. In the real world there will be a reason why they pulled the triggers. Isn’t that’s what’s important? Motive? All we have been told is that it is a terrorist attack so far. Not who is behind it but it seems as if you have already made up your mind.

The hero has been named as Ahmed al Ahmed. He is in hospital with bullet wounds to his arm and hand. Death toll now up to 16 including a child.

So every time I have mentioned Netanyahu, his Government and the IDF you conflate that with all Jewish people? So you really haven’t been reading my posts. Go find the posts over the last few months where I blame Jews. Go find the posts where I support Islamic extremists. My thoughts are clear about what happened today. Innocent people should not die because others in power chose violence to advance their agenda. Jews, Palestinians anyone you care to mention. I do not and never have supported Hamas or any other extremist Islamic organisation. Also I think that the actions of Netanyahu and his government and their constant throwing around of the anti-Semitic card when it suits their purpose to deflect from their actions has made the Jewish people around the world less safe. I can’t be clearer than that. If you feel the need to twist that to suit an imagined pro Islamic terrorist anti Jewish agenda like nutty nic, then I’m afraid you are just as deluded as he is. Just to be extra clear, anybody using Christianity, Judaism or Islam to justify killing others, destroying their homes and taking their land is doing so to satisfy their own sociopathic, warped world view. It has nothing to do with a God.

If the great Donald Trump doesn’t know how do you expect me to? They could start, both sides by actually stop shooting at each other and stealing land that isn’t theirs. Seriously though, do you actually read what I write? I have not taken the side of Hamas. I have taken the side of the innocent people in Gaza and the West Bank who have been and are being killed, maimed and displaced and have been for over two years now. Balanced view? How often have innocent Jewish people been killed since 7th October? How many have died in Gaza and the West Bank over the last two years? The Israeli government are under investigation for committing genocide. Netanyahu has been accused of committing war crimes. I am on the side of innocent people and the innocent people under threat in the main are the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank. The only people who seem to have a problem with this are the people who hate Muslims, extremists or not.

And you are probably the most stupid person ever to post on a football forum, and the bar is pretty low. Finally though you have shown your true colours. Little wonder you get upset when the likes of Tommy Robinson get flak. You have gone properly Islamophobic. They hate us. They want to rule or destroy us. Do you ever listen to yourself? What an absolute twat you are. You actually make Donald Trump sound like a 5 year old rather than a toddler.

If you pay attention you would understand that there are many religious leaders on both sides of the divide who are desperately working for peace. Sadly the hawks on both sides don’t want peace. This isn’t just about aggression from Hamas/Islam, but I am sure that you understand that. Yes they are using their religion for their own ends. What about those in Netanyahu’s government who are using their religion to displace people from their homes in the West Bank. We have been saying this for years, this is not about one side in white hats and one in black hats. Both sides believe that they are right and that their actions are justified. Both sides have warmongers and both sides have those who just want to live peacefully alongside the other. There is clearly no easy solution to this conflict but as long as you have extremists on both sides who are just intent on killing each other there will be no way out. This includes Netanyahu’s government as much as it does Hamas and other extremist Muslim groups.

Netanyahu laying the blame at the feet of the Australian PM for supporting a Palestinian state. Yet again he completely deliberately ignores the fact that his actions in Gaza and elsewhere have led to an increase in negativity against Israel. He doesn’t get to say whether Palestine exists or not, despite his best efforts to wipe Gaza off the planet.

I wonder if he had some kind of military/police training? If he was just a random guy who acted on impulse, that takes balls of steel.

If that is true then yes, they are sick. Just like the Jewish people who sat and celebrated the bombing of Gaza. There is no moral high ground between them.

My point is that their motive has not been confirmed by the authorities yet. What you believe at this moment in time is just an opinion.

The levels of anti-Semitism have apparently risen since the attack on Gaza. Previous Islamic attack have mainly been against the general public. This seems that the Jewish community has been attacked specifically, but again, this is just speculation at the moment.

You have never call it looney left? Ok. I asked you to tell me what my extremists views were and you haven’t. It isn’t my definition of the far right. I use the definition used by the media, political commentators, ChatGPT etc. Please get your facts right next time. If you didn’t believe that she was biased why say so? I can quote some old Tory grandee’s who call Farage a fascist but I don’t quote them because I don’t think he is quite that far right. Whatever other people (the people you care to mention) think of her, it doesn’t mean that her assessment of various people and parties is wrong. It doesn’t stand or fall by what Emily Maitlis thinks. The opinion is very wide spread. You share these opinions therefore it is not unreasonable to assume that you have “far right” views. Have the courage of your convictions. Own it. You get likes from nutty nic, that should tell you all you need to know. We have been discussing the effect of more extreme right wing policies in the US and the rise of the far right party here, Reform. You have tried to muddy the waters by dragging the left into it. The left aren’t the problem in America and you won’t find anyone here who thinks that Starmer’s Labour (you know, the people in power) are anything like a left wing party. You might not like lefty policies but they are not causing the problems that we are facing here and in the USA.

We are turning into the USA…Trump has a lot to answer for. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/13/fake-anti-labour-video-billion-views-youtube-2025

Can you apply for the job when Eckert gets sacked please? 😉

We don’t know the motives of the shooters yet do we? We are making assumptions due to them targeting a Jewish festival. If they are Islamic extremists they are not helping their cause. This attack will only give the Islamophobes more fuel.

There is video footage of a guy wrestling a gun from one of the shooters. Very brave man and clearly saved lives.

Something does change in the second half. We look more confused and disjointed. Aribo, Archer etc get stick for not changing things for the better when they come on but with the team looking less coherent (lack of fitness?) it is like turning up to a kids game on a playground where people have a vague idea of what they are supposed to be doing but not doing it how and where they should. We rarely play to Archer’s strengths. Robinson showed signs of being a decent player but has now regressed to another bit part player who doesn’t add much when he comes on. There was a lot of talk about clarity when Eckert got the job. I saw little of that yesterday or during the second half against WBA. Perhaps we just sign mostly thick players who can’t work things out on the pitch?

That’s his main strength. Getting in the way. He is one of the worst CH we have had in the air given his size. He has little spatial awareness and can usually be relied up to have a couple of brain farts a game which hand goal scoring opportunities to the other side. Yes, he will have a few decent games a season, but for any club in the Championship with ambition, at best he should only be a bench warmer.

It is indeed. I don’t know what these people hope to achieve other causing even more pain and misery. It won’t change anything other than the people’s lives who have lost family, loved ones and friends. You are right, Netanyahu’s actions in Gaza and the West Bank have painted targets on the backs of Jew’s all around the world. There is a whole new generation who are growing up and seeing Jewish people as land grabbing genocidal aggressors thanks to the actions of his government and the IDF. This is never going to end.

Back in the early 90’s I lived with someone whose Dad was one of the principal singers in the Minstrels. When the main show ended he used to tour with another of the main singers using the brand to sell tickets. By then blackface was less acceptable but he said that the audiences used to be disappointed that they didn’t use blackface in the shows. He, personally, couldn’t see the problem with it and saw it as paying homage to the great black singers. Different times. Lenny Henry had his first big break on the show too, although he disassociates himself from it now. She said that the cast used to treat him like family and were upset by his later comments. Al Jolson was hugely successful in the States and used blackface in his performances. It wasn’t seen as racist at the time and Jolson said that he did it to bring black music to a wider audience. He was against segregated audiences and fought for equal rights for black performers on Broadway. As I said, different times.

Just because you think that one particular journalist is bias in her use of language doesn’t mean to say it is wrong. You won’t find many people who do not agree that Robinson’s political views tick the “far right” boxes as do many of the people who support Reform U.K. That is why they are seen as being “far right,” not because some “loony lefties” have decided to call them that as a pejorative term. As I said to Farmer, various terms are used to differentiate between various degrees of views between left and right. You yourself define anyone left of centre as a “loony lefty.” That suits your narrative. The term “far right” suits the narrative for those who see the difference between moderate right wingers and more extreme right wingers. It has nothing to do with Emily Maitlis specifically but you zoom in again on something to deflect from something else. It is a classic ploy used by the likes of Trump and Farage. The kind of people whose views you seem to have an affinity with.

It was on a broadcast. I didn’t think that you meant them specifically. Here is another article from the Independent that links Robinson with “far right.” https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-supporters-christianity-brand-anti-muslim-b2880952.html I’m really not sure why we are having this discussion. Robinson, Reform UK and Farage are all very firmly linked with views that are very widely described as being “far right.” I haven’t made it up. The only people who get upset about the term are those people who share those views. As someone who professes to be a Tory himself, I would assume that you would want there to be a well defined term that disassociated your views from theirs?

Good point. There are only 7 days in a week still and we play 2 games in 7 days. Imagine the extra mental fatigue you must face if someone is telling you that you have played 3 games in 7 days. Poor lambs.

The Faragists won’t like this but it sums up the current situation perfectly. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/will-farage-s-trumpian-strategy-work-against-him-he-has-good-reason-to-believe-it-won-t/ar-AA1Sh0EL?cvid=48fb4af33b294ab7bbe9eca5481f8c65&ocid=hpmsn