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Tory MPs were lining up to condemn “hate marches” when people took to the street in support of innocent civilians killed in Gaza and the West Bank. Where are these same Tory MPs now thugs are threatening our towns and innocent people here in this country?

Genuine question. Do you follow Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate on Twitter?

Black/brown/muslim person does something wrong = very bad White, British person does something wrong = not so bad *cue inane comments about “two tier something something” “taking the knee” “I want my country back” “Lack of British values” “They don’t integrate” “Rule Britannia” etc

Once a week a few of us meet for breakfast and set the world to rights over a Full English (“Nige” would approve). One of the guys is ex military intelligence and had served in Cyprus (at the time of the invasion), Northern Ireland, Iraq and the US. In short, he knows about trouble spots. We were talking about the receipts and he was less than complementary about the police. He feels that they are letting the rioters off lightly, that they are assaulting police officers by throwing objects at them and mostly getting away with it. He would prefer to see them dealt with immediately rather than maybe get a knock on the door a day or two later on the basis that everyone can see that the assaults are not tolerated when they occur. He doesn’t understand why they don’t use the same tactics as in N Ireland where you have a wall of officers behind riot shields and behind them lightly armoured snatch squads who break through the ranks, grab perpetrators and drag them behind the wall again. Shove them in to armoured vehicles and whisk them off to detention centres. I asked about the use of the army and he thinks that would be escalatory at the moment. It also takes a long time to get official approval to deploy the army on to the streets. A lot depends on what happens tonight and how the special police squads are able to deal with any future trouble. The Musk civil war stuff is just a fruitcake being a fruitcake. What we do have now though are groups of people around the country who think that they have been given licence to vent their anger on Asian, immigrants and any one they don’t like the look of by years of negative rhetoric about small boats and illegal immigrants from not only Farage and the likes of Robinson and Tate, but also Jenrick, Braverman, Badenoch, Patel, Anderson etc. The condemnation from the current Tory top table has been lukewarm. Either they are embarrassed because of their complicity or, more likely, they feel that the riots will help their claims of the alleged lack of integration from minority groups and the alleged threat from black and brown people (even though many of them are black and brown themselves).

The Telegraph is now in completion with The Daily Mail as the major propaganda outlet for the far right agenda. They donate two pages to the Asian crowd who caused some relatively small trouble in Birmingham. Two pages. Can you imagine the coverage if it had been gangs of Asians attacking churches, white people, trashing towns, looting and assaulting police for the last week?

I have tried to explain so many times that I don’t bother any more. They are either not very bright or are deliberately being obtuse but, either way, you are wasting your time.

Set up a crowd fund page for you safe passage somewhere else please.

Musk…part of the problem? https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/05/elon-musk-harris-grok-misinformation

The only thing you have in the palm of your hand is your todger when you post your drivel and get off on the replies. You got thrown off of a football forum for being a twat. Well done! As for where I currently live, I have lived in many different places and have worked in many towns and cities. I am just as qualified as anybody on here to have an opinion on what is going on thanks. I should add that the smart people on here laugh at you, not with you and that being a narcissist is nothing remotely to be proud of.

He is just loving this. He has been playing this angle for years. Stoking up racial divide and speaking to the hoodies brigade. Many of the Reform votes come from these people. “Nothing to do with me,” he says yet in the same broadcast he talks about how England isn’t England anymore which is exactly what the rioters parrot. He is a far right agitator who plays those without much between their ears like a fiddle, just like dictators have done so through the years. As said before, straight out of the Orwell playbook. Create your demon, in this case foreigners, and blame the reason your life is crap on them. Fortunately, so far, the push back from the people he has demonised has been relatively low. He plays down the violence from his own supporters in this broadcast yet bigs up tyres being slashed and journalists running away (did they really?). Not great obviously, but hardly on par with the petrol bombing of police, setting fire to premises with immigrants inside and the violence we have seen from his supporters so far. These people are his storm troopers. What they don’t realise is that he doesn’t give a flying f**k about them and is just using them as pawns in his grift. The same with the people who come on here and back him up. You have all been conned. He takes legitimate concerns and he plays on people’s fears. Your children are more likely to be sexually assaulted by a family member or a white person than an Asian, but you won’t here that from him and the gullible swallow it hook line and sinker. Where ever he goes he hears people speaking in foreign languages (his children speak German so no surprise if it hears that at home) and that is the reason you are struggling with money and your life is crap. Bloody immigrants coming over here and taking our jobs. This is bog standard dictator rhetoric from the 1930’s and beyond. The sad thing is that there are some people who want to believe it so they park any of the critical faculties they may and go along for the ride. He mentioned James O’Brien. Why? Because he has Farage bang to rights and has been exposing his grift for years. When our very own Farage apologist/plant Delldays/Batman/AlexLaw calls out James O’Brien you know that he has touched a nerve. There are all manner of serious issues that need to be addressed, but they need to be addressed coolly, rationally and with appealing to the baser instincts, which is precisely what Farage is seeking to do here and what Trump tries to do in the US. In public Farage will say that he doesn’t support violence, Tommy Robinson, far right thugs, yet these are the very people he is aiming to stir up. He is the well spoken, smart suited face of far right anarchy. He winds them up, they do his bidding, they then do the jail time whilst he is down his local ale house fiddling his MPs expenses (just as he fiddled his MEPs expenses). He is a useful idiot for Putin and Trump and he plays a large section of the British public for suckers. The people of Clacton have done this country a great disservice. Now watch the laughing emojis appear from the very people who swallow his guff 😂

Tell us, what “culture” do people have when they trash towns and terrify innocent, normal people who just want to get on with their lives? Do these people represent all that is good about British values to you? Tell us please, what “culture” do these people have that is so commendable to you?

What do you think about racism for whites against Asian people? Do you know that there are more white grooming gangs than Asian? There are areas that are no go areas for brown/black people too. There are huge drug problems with white people/county lines. More white people are involved in crime than non-white. What you seem happy to completely ignore is that the problems that you focus on are more of an issue that involve white people who comprise of over 80% of the population of the UK. You are no different to the people that are causing the riots. You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear. There are many problems in this country. They involve people of all colours, races and creeds. When you just focus on a specific group, ignoring the bigger picture, that is pure, blinkered racism. You have the same issues with gay people, transgender people, woke people. Nigel Farage is not the answer. You like to think you are a smart cookie. If you were as smart as you think you are you would listen to people with a wider, more mature world view than those you seem to seek out normally.

Well, they want their country back. How do you propose that happens? They also want all migrants deported. Again, any ideas? Cultural integration. How does that happen when they hate Muslims? Sort out policing to their satisfaction. How does that happen when they constantly break the laws of the land and put themselves against the police? The problem is not that they have a point and we need to listen to them. The problem is that they hate certain types of people, don’t want them here and want a fantasised version of Engerland that never actually existed anyway (and one in which they still would be bottom of the food chain. When the best of you is Tommy Robison you are in trouble. You can’t negotiate with pondlife.

Not that there was any doubt, but this says it all. To be fair to Stewart and Sopel, they would probably prefer to have a beer with Musk than you too! And Twitter is a cesspit so I expect you fit right in with your views.

I could do with the money!

Scumbags are scumbags, you are quite right, but everyone calls out a scumbag. The difference here is that there are a great many scumbags who hate foreigners, think we are are still the same country who used to have a huge Empire and are superior to the rest of the world and most of them are thick as mince. You see them in the riots here and you see them wrecking town centres at England matches abroad. They are usually covered with tattoos, shaved heads and are tanked up on booze/drugs. They are particularly unpleasant and are rightly called out because there are a great many of them and they are a stain on this country. Being “lower class” has nothing to do with anything. There are plenty of working class people who don’t behave like they do. They get called out for what they are and the way they behave. Moronic scumbags. If any others behaved like they do, they would also be called moronic scumbags. They are only stereotyped because they are stereotypical moronic scumbags.

If you get 5 years for gluing yourself to the tarmac trying to save the planet, what should you get for trying to burn people alive because they have a different colour skin?

The Bob Dylan and Joan Baez of the Gen Z generation?

The DPP is considering bringing terrorist charges against some of the rioters. Maybe these morons will think twice before trying to burn people alive now? It’s not a good look having terrorist on your CV when you claim to love your country.

Not because it’s ok to hate Muslims then?

Or just double standards?

Delldays, you are up for a conspiracy theory, what do you make of this? The government and the media seem very wary of using the term “Islamophobia” in relation to the recent riots (where mosques and Muslims are being targeted). If it was Jewish people being targeted and Synagogues being attacked do you think that it would be described far and wide as anti-Semitic? Two tier approach maybe? 🤔

They are doing Tommy Robinson’s work for him - spreading misinformation and stirring up hate. I believe the term is “useful idiots.”

Did you see the clip of the woman saying that the Titanic sunk because there were too many people on it and the same is happening to this country?

Did I miss something? Were they part of the recent rioting? Or was this a completely unrelated incident that is being treated normally by the CJS? What do you think?