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The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?
sadoldgit replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
There has been talk about doing away with juries for some time now, in complicated fraud cases for example. Cases, especially serious sexual cases are taking an age to get to court leading to some victims walking away. Something needs to be done. -
The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?
sadoldgit replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
Thanks to the austerity years the Criminal Justice System is on its knees and measures need to be taken to sort out the back log. Cutting staff in the courts, probation, the CPS and the police every year for years has created this situation. If Badenoch/The Tories kick off about it they need to remember why we are in this state in the first place. -
Why? Correct me if I am wrong, but Sir Ralph is only interested in the number of racist hate cases that end in convictions. So if 100 cases go to court and 80 end up with a conviction, that is the level of racism as far as he is concerned. There may be another 1000 cases where people have said that they have been racially abused but, for one reason or another, they haven’t made it to court. Is it unreasonable to take into account the “anecdotal” feedback on racism when looking at what is happening at ground level? Why just dismiss people’s experiences as “guff?” It is generally accepted that the amount of sexual assaults on women is much higher than the recorded figure because many don’t report it to the police. It is the same with race hate cases. In both events the cases that end in convictions are just the tip of the iceberg. I don’t expect Sir Ralph, or nic for that matter, to understand this point. You on the other hand, shouldn’t find it too hard to comprehend.
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The custody Sargent who dissed the woman who said had been punched in the stomach. He probably was thinking that was “anecdotal guff” too.
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I don’t think it is about playing leader. I think it is about strong characters who stand up when things get tough and set an example to the rest. All too often we fold at the slightest setback. Some players lead by being the loudest but many do so by example.
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It wasn’t that long ago that you were getting agitated about the amount of time our media gave to the actions of the President of the United States of America. Can you see why now? The Russians are killing Ukrainian civilians on pretty much a daily basis. Do you think that it would speed up peace negotiations if Ukraine started to target Russian civilians?
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If someone said they had been robbed by a Somalian immigrant with a knife why would I dispute that? It doesn’t mean that all Somalian immigrants carry knives and rob people though does it? Whereas we know that more people carry out hate crimes because we have the official figures to back it up. We don’t need to rely on anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal guff? You sound like that custody Sargent in the undercover Panorama programme about dodgy coppers. “That’s what she said.” Just as well that you didn’t pursue a career in the police.
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Oh dear. It wasn’t just Starmer. The report was pulled apart and criticised by many people. You would know that if you were a true fact seeker and unbiased in this matter.
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Yet you are constantly trying to ignore both hard factual evidence along with compelling anecdotal evidence. Ok. What about the thousands of emails displaying racial hatred that are shared in the media but do not get taken to the police for action. Do you discount those?
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You say you deal in facts, you might recall then that it is a fact to say that the Sewell Commission’s report was widely discredited. One group said that it was a “deliberate attempt to whitewash institutional racism.” Keir Starmer himself was “deeply disappointed” with it.
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I think that you are just desperately trying to pretend this isn’t a serious issue.
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There is plenty of official evidence on the internet if you care to look. There is a big difference between being a tolerant country and being a racist country. I’d also be interested in how you define a racist country. I’m sure many countries are tolerant and are not seen as being racist, but that doesn’t mean to say that they don’t have serious issues with racism. The fact that it is being talked about virtually every day shows that it is a serious issue, surely? If an Asian guy came up to you, clearly upset, and told you that he had just been called a fkin p*** and was told to go back to his own country, would you show him empathy or tell him to go away and come back when the perpetrator had been charged and convicted?
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Why did the USA get involved in North Korea and Vietnam? Why did the USA (once upon a time, not now of course) take such a strong stand about the spread of Communism? Why are they still supporting Israel so staunchly if they are getting fed up with our part of the world?
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Are you nic? They are “reported” which means they are “reported” to the police. The CPS said there was an 86% success rate in these prosecutions. What interests me is why you are only bothered about stats but don’t seem remotely concerned by personal experiences.
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As it says clearly. These are reported crimes and is not a “potential” increase. It is an actual increase. These are only the crimes that are reported. As I am sure you understand, many more go unreported.
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In the year up to March 2025 there was a 6% increase in race hate crimes. During the same period religious hate crimes increased by 3%. Muslim hate crime in particular increased by 19%. I gave you a ten year figure earlier of an increase of 190%. You could also try listening to people’s personal experiences if you want to know how it affects them. It lands for more powerfully than looking at a bunch of figures.
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Left leaning? What has that got to do with anything? Who do I listen to? A random bloke on the internet who bases his opinions on perceived left/right bias or members of racial and religious minorities who are sharing their experiences about what is happening to them? I can provide plenty of evidence that actual race crimes are increasing if you really aren’t bothered about these people’s every day experiences. I guess you only believe woman when they say they have been sexually assaulted too if there is a legal conviction to back up the claim?
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https://observer.co.uk/news/opinion-and-ideas/article/politically-acceptable-uk-racism-is-on-the-rise-and-worse-this-is-under-progressive-labour-rule You can put your head in the sand, but you really need to try and find reasons not to disbelieve what people tell you.
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https://theconversation.com/is-racism-becoming-more-acceptable-in-the-uk-269838 https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2025/7/29/the-uk-is-slipping-into-racist-dystopia
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Evidence? Between 2013 and 2023 there was a 190% increase in reported race hate crimes. Reported. Makes you wonder about how many were not reported and what the true figure is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjyqz1xp9zo.amp
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Ask people with brown skin, black skin, Muslims, Jews about their daily experiences, the vast majority of which are not recorded or make the news. Ask the people who fronted the Black Lives Matter campaign or the take the knee protests. Read the reports about institutional racism in police forces. If you are standing in a queue in a supermarket and someone walks past you and tells you to go back to your own country, do you think that a league table will make any difference to how you feel?
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But we didn’t finish with 46 points in a vacuum did we? The point you seem to ignore is that we were the 8th best team in the EPL that season. We weren’t well beaten. We had a perfectly good goal ruled out. I watched the game with a friend of mine who is a United supporter and he said that we were the better team and they were lucky to win. We probably would have beaten them if VVD had been playing. As for the playing style. Win first, entertain second.
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Call me old fashioned but if SR could deliver a manager who could provide beating Liverpool in the semis, more than matching Manchester United in a cup final and finishing 8th in the EPL I would bite their hands off.
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See the post above. See the grey out section which would normally contain the posters post. If you click on the options it gives you an option to read the post if you want to. Do you get it yet?
