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Ours is into drugs right now so you might want to think about it a bit more carefully.

You could well be right, but if we don't go up a change of players might not be a bad thing? Whatever we think of Pardew and Adkins, if we don't go up 2 seasons running with these players in the side, perhaps we have the wrong players?

Pardew's teams won an awful lot of games and scored an awful lot of goals so maybe there was some merit in his tactics?

Let me get this right. The long ball (hoofball) was being roundly slagged off and playing it out from the back was tactical genious. Now it is the reverse? Or should it be some of each?

I assume you are referring to me Mr Fry. I have never said that people need three years to get promotion. What I have said is that most managers take time to get it right and it is unfiar to sack them after a year if they don't succeed at first. Getting rid of Pardew was not a good move in my opinion. Unless NA is rubbish this season I would not sack him either if we don't go up this season. You might think that Cortese has not set us back. I don't agree. I also think it is unfiar to expect Adkins to deliver promotion this season come what may.

Emerson, Lake and Palmer got together again recently. Interesting from a historical perspective but nowehere near as good as they were in their prime. The best thing The Beatles ever did was not reform. Still it is a nice earner (for charity or otherwise). In the good old days bands made no or little money from being on the road and toured to boost record sales. Now they earn a fortune from a tour, the live CD/DVD etc.

I was wondering about this myself. Pardew got a lot of flak on here for apparently having no Plan B. It will be interesting to see how those who critisised him handle it when Adkins loses games.

We will probably never know the truth. Pardew did a good job for us last year and I believe he would have taken us up this year. Hopefuly Adkins will. Pardew will get a decent job in football somewhere else. There will be people on here who support him and people who were gald to see him go and they will both believe what they want to believe. This, like most of are squabbles on here, will go nowhere.

Pardew or Cortese? McMenemy was no shrinking violet. Perhaps we should have sacked him too?

Yep

Blimey Alps, I agree with you!!!!

The timing of Pardew's sacking wasn't great but Adkins has put a decent run together and it helps that Lambert and Lallana are back on the score sheets and that the teams above are not winning games constantly. One problem last season was the consistancy of the leading pack. I was unsure about prmotion earlier in the season but feel more confident now, however it only takes a couple of injuries and who knows?

Why is that?

It is a valid question. Nice that he is confident but he will look like a total c*ck if we don't go up won't he?

Have I said I don't think we will get promoted?

Thanks Nicola

Eek.

There is always the need for a Plan B, trouble is most managers don't have one unless they can afford a very, very expensive bench. It is good to see the wins rolling in at last and clean sheets but whilst you slag off Pardew you seem to forget his team scored an awful lot of goals so I would suggest that he did something right. As for the good times, we have a long long way to go yet.

I admire his confidence and I hope he is right. But what if we don't get promoted this season?

I hope are right Bert.

Well I have to go to work today so I thought I would bring everyone else down too!

GOod post Phil, but you will always get those for whom everything is black and white and life is much simpler with good cowboy, white hat bad cowboy, black hat.

It is football. Apart from Shankley, Clough and Strachan (at times), who says or said anything we haven't heard a million times before?

Couldn't agree more. If it ain't got stripes it ain't the Saints.

Very gay name.