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As you say, it is just opinions and I respect the fact that some people think he did a good job and some people don't. Whether he went cap in hand and asked for money I don't know. Perhaps Cortese offered it up? What I do know is that you can't just buy promotion. We could have done better. Many teams did worse and they will be saying the same. Should? Why? Just because we spent money? If only it were that simple SS.

What do deloitte's have t say about England performace in the World Cup?

He only failed because he was hamstrung from the start. I believe without the minus 10 we would have been promoted through the play offs. It is a tin pot cup but for a club that has ome of the smallest trophy cabinets in the country and one that has been through a dismal time, it was a very large light at the end of a very long dark tunnel. You can apply the word "should" any where you want but it means nothing. England should have done better in the World Cup. He did a decent job last year and played his part in turning this club around.

Managers/teams can only beat the teams in front of them. We have divisions which means that we have groups of teams which are deemed to be of similar standards. A high win ration has got to be better than a low win ration. A win is a win and no easier to get in Div 3 than the Premiership for teams in those divisions.

He won a cup and would have got a down and out club into the play offs if it wasn't for the minus 10 points. I would say that was an achievement, evn if it falls below your expectations. You could add that he signed some players who could easily be playing in the CCC. No mean feat either.

Not that bad either to be fair. Plenty of managers are egotistical, it is what drives them to manage. As for your last point, as you say, rumours.

Lowe didn't haveany trouble geting people to apply for the job and he had a far worse reputation. Football managers aren't fools. If they can get a job like ours then they are heroes if they do well and minted if they get sacked. As for Pardew getting sacked several times, he is not a lone stastic in that department. HIs stock will be high after what he achieved with us last year and although he might not get a Prem offer he could certainly manage in the CCC again.

If that is what happen. If. Then it is understandle. Pardew know he can get a CCC job, if not another Prem job. So why take sh*t in the third division? If.

A lot of managers go to work in environments that are not great for a variety of reasons. If Cortese laid on the charm the rest is easy as the club sells itself. I doubt if he gave Pardew a call and said should I take it.

If it was easy to get players to get the ball down and play it on the deck every manager would be sorted. It isn't as Adkins found out last night and as Pardew found out last year and pretty much most managers find out every week. The simple fact is that we need to win games and do we really care how Adkins does it so long as he does it? If he does as well or better than Pardew then no harm done. If he doesn't then Cortese will have a problem.

No I don't want to go through all that again. But I don't want another problematic CEO either!

Hoofball is often what players resort too when they either lose confidence or don't have the gumption to play to the managers instructions. Adkins found this out last night. Managers like Jack Charlton and Graham Taylor actually set up their teams to play like that. Most other managers spend their lives trying to stop their teams playing like that. Pardew must have done something right last year because his teams scored an awful lot of goals and had a very good win ratio.

I have heard that his relations with the staff at SMS is very poor too. If what you say is true it is very worrying.

No one knows for sure whether the pre-season was a shambles or not. Lambert came out and said he was the best prepared he has ever been. Perhaps the crap start was down to the huge weight of expectations on the team? Certainly plenty of chances were made in several games and missed. Had they gone in, different story. Players were signed pre-season, okay not in the positions we wanted them but signings were made non the less.

Yeah, because things are so much better now. And if Pardew had been manager for the games since Rovers you would be going ballistic Alps.

So is that yes or no Ron?

Woot woot. More of the same please!

Apparently someone put a transfer request in the day the window closed. Perhaps it was him?

From that post the other week I thought you knew Nicola intimately, so it now appears that you know no more about him than I do. As for your last point. I spoke to a lady whose son works at St Mary's and she told me that he wasn't liked by the staff. Perhaps she was lying because she has an agenda, who knows? Still, you will discount anything that shows him in a poor light because it doesn't suit your position so we cancel each other out don't we. How do you know that we didn't give it our best shot? We one of the highest scoring team in the league, hardly a sign that we were saving ourselves for cup games is it? Anyway, we won today so who gives a f***?

Yay!

Pradew has either signed something saying that he will not speak about the sacking (which is most likely) or out of dignity he has kept his mouth shout. There are two sides to every story. Cortese will have his as will Pardew. To draw an inferrence that Pardew must be guilty because he hasn't said anything is your own choice.

You really need to read a post before you slag it off Alps. As for an agenda, yesI do have one. It is to try and get some decent discussions going but that isn't going to happen unless you clear your mind before you start with your usual knee jerk reactionar response. Why don't you try and eal with the subject matter? How do you feel about the current situation? Did you feel we had turned a corner only to find that nothing had changed? If so, why do you feel that is? I see from anothet thread that you say we are heading for another relegation. If you really think that why is it when we have a supposedly better set up now? Don't you think these questions needed to be discussed? It has nothing to do with any one individual, but be honest, what really has changed?

I am not burying my head mate. I just have not read anything that said screw the league I am going all out for a cup. If he said it fair enough, but maybe he said it because he thought that a cup was winnable whereas after the slow start and the minus 10 he had less chance of getting up? As you seem to know what is in NCs mind so well, was it part of the 5 year plan to go up last year at all costs? You still don't say how you know what is in NCs mind so well but as you do, I'd be interested in what he thinks about his poor relationship with the staff at St Marys?

Why doesn't Pardew's silence do him any favours? No doubt he has had to sign a "gagging order." If Cortese gets credit for keeping his mouth shut perhaps Pardew should do too? What I am interested is not so much the reason for the sacking as you say, there are legal reasons for that, but the reason behind their falling out, if there was one. The sports pages are full of gossip about various managers and their CEO not getting on, bot not a word about Cortese and Pardew. Cortese employed Pardew so must have rated him at the start. His obvious lack of public support later though showed that something was very amiss.

How do you know this for certain? I don't recall Pardew ever saying her was prioritising the cups? I thought he wanted both. He said, quite rightly, that the club had been starved of success and needed to get a winning mentality back. Winning a cup was a huge boost for this club last year. I'd be interested to hear how you seem to know so much about a man who is a mystery to most. As for liquidation, how many clubs has that happened to? Sorry but I don't get that. There was more people interested according to the Administrator.