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What? So the players are not responsible at all? You really do come out with some rubbish Alpine.

Perhaps, or perhaps he is just fed up with answering the same question. I do wonder what is going on between Cortese and Pardew though.

None of us knows what is going on behind the scenes but if waiting a bit longer means that we get the right players in why should that be a problem?

Here we go again. The man that knows absolutely nothing about running a football club having a pop. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to how you know that Pardew's Plan B is crap or that he doesn't have several plans? Do you really think that an experienced manager goes into a match with only one strategy in his head to win the game? You do have an amazing insight mate, and all the way from Austria too. We had enough chances to beat Plymouth and Orient. Perhaps it is the players you should be having a go at for not putting the ball in the net because the chances are certainly there (and that would indicate that Plan A, Plan C or Plan Z are working as far as that is concerned).

You really do have some serious issues going on Alpine. How do you know that the lack of transfer activity is not down to the CEO? If that was the case would you show "tolerance and understanding"?

All managers are only as good as the last match and all managers are always one match away from being sacked. There is no job security but they do get handsomely rewarded for failure. What I find sad is this that for many on here the answer after a defeat (and even a draw) is sack the manager. A succesful club is one that pulls togther from top to bottom. It is not just down to the manager. The CEO, the players, the training staff, the physios - everyone has responsibility. There is an assumption by some that Pardew has deliberately stalled on buying players (this despite knowing that he tried to buy a striker). These people have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. It may well be down to Cortese, but hey, as he is currently fireproof lets take a pop at the manager. Pardew is no mug and showed last season that he has what it takes to get us promoted - with support. If the sacking brigade get their way and he goes, what on earth will you do if his predessesor fares no better?

Three games. One victory, one draw, one defeat. Out come the drama queens. Pardew said judge him after 10 games. Not unreasonable.

Post of the day.

I will try and find it for you, but it was in an piece by Cortese.

Not once did I say "In George Burley we trust" as I find that phrase, as I said, cringeworthy. As for double standars Alpine, how so? I didn't slag Burley off because, apart from last season, he gave us a decent season in the play off year and had an excellent win per games ration (not to mention his team scored lots of goals, like Pardew's did last year). The double standards are coming thick and fast this season though. You know as well as I do if Lowe was still here he would be crucified for the press thing, the photographer thing and the early bird thing - not to mention not spending a shedload of money. As for cutting the bloke some slack Alpine, do you really think someone like Cortese would bother to read this? Why would he be bothered about something he knows nothing about? If is just an Internet chat board for goodness sakes.

No I didn't make it up Nick. I read it somewhere but don't have the time right now to find the article. It was in a Cortese article.

Yep. And why is it ok to criticse one but not another? As you say, this place should be for grown ups.

I have this problem. It seem to me that the 5 year plan (now a 4 year plan of course) involved getting us into the Premiership, selling up and moving on. So I have 2 questions. What happens to us when they move on and what happens to us if we are not in the Premiership in 4 years time?

If you bother to read what I say I dont say that managers are infallible. Quite the opposite. They all are so why hang them out to dry for being human? Same with CEOs. but it seems that we have to leave a certain one alone now?

Pardew himself didn't seem very sure about his future and alot of old Saints "heros" came out of the woodwork to support him - so perhaps there was a reason for that?

I agree. I find it odd that the likes of Lowe, Wilde, Crouch etc were up for criticism but Cortese isn't. Why should the sad passing of the owner make his position even more fireproof? LIke the other CEOs, Cortese will make errors and he will get things right. His position and decisions should be no less up for discussion and scrutiny than anyone elses. Frankly I find the whole "In NC we trust" to be cringeworthy. Not so long ago he was being castigated for his petty actions re the echo and photographers. Nothing in his statement alludes t the fact that he has made some PR gaffes but because of the passing of ML. somehow we are suppose to firget that stuff? For goodness sakes, the passing of Markus was very sad and untimely, but it doesn't mean that Cortese suddenly walks on water and can do no wrong.

I thought I had done.

I don't know either person Alps. But I got a different feeling to Markus than I do for Nicola. There is no reason why people become friends, they just do. But I am not going to change my opinion of someone because another person liked them.

That would be the Chris Nicholl that blew the legacy that McMenemy left behind?

Indeed.

Because that is how he comes across to me Alps (and many others apparently). Mr Cortese may have many noble attributes but being avunclar isn't one of them (to me).

Can't let what go? Oh, you mean that some people are ok so we can treat them with an element of humanity and respect but others aren't so they aren't given the basic element of humanity or respect? Tell me, because you hated Lowe with a passion do you think that nobody cares fo him? Really, it is such b*llox.

Then do it. Why start a thread saying you are going to do it? It may well be a tough time for Mr Cortese at the moment. I imagine it is far tougher for Markus's family.

Not watching Dawn Goes Lesbian then?

In 1976 sat in the United end trying to contain my emotion when the lads paraded the Cup around the ground in case I lost my teeth. At Orient crushed against the wall but popped out on to the pitch just before the wall collapsed. Walked off the pitch with the players celebrating the draw that took us closer to promotion. Sat at work when the phone rang with my Dad telling we we had just signed Keegan. Happy days.