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Promotion and Europe within two seasons...would you say no to that?

Yep Corky, because they need someone to blame when things go wrong. We had had many whipping boys and in recent times it has been Lowe and Burley, now its Pardew's turn.

Once again dar old Alps, you don't get it do you. There is a marked difference in our posts and attitude. You are totally negative and constantly snipe at managers. I find this very strange as you don't actually see the matches and I wonder how you can form such angry and deep seated opinions from Austria. It doesn't matter where I live and how many matches I see live, I will always support the manager and the team as I appreciate that we are not Brazil and probably will never be world beaters. I hope for the best but I am not about to throw myself off a mountain if we lose, as we will. Your brand of negativity is obsessive and I think you need to have a bit of a break and put your feet up. You sound like you are heading for a breakdown mate. People like Geoge Burley and Alan Pardew are just blokes doing a job to the best of their ability, but you make it sound like they have a personal vendatta against you! I still remember that famous post you made a few years back where you accused Burley of going out of his way to scupper our promotions chances. Really? I don't mind that you ignore my opinions, but Alps, perhaps you should open your eyes and see that many many people on here find your obsessive negativy is a bit odd and don't like it very much. A fiver might not be a lot nowdays but if I want to be depressed I can get that for free by looking at my wage slip.

Very wise Alps, never good to hang around when there is a mob chasing you down the road with pitch forks and a rope

And I am expecting promotion in my job, but so are others so I might not get it and they might.

No you don't get it. And judging by people's responses to your posts yesterday and today most other people here seem to think you don't get it either. By the way, could you explain what you mean by NorthernMonkeyLand please?

NothernMonkeyLand????? WTF??????

Perhaps then you would like to give us your expert opinions of where Pardew went wrong in each of these games then Alps? Oh, I forgot, you weren't there were you?

Yep, I was working and clicked onto the Beeb to check the results and saw this but didn't read the correction properly and thought that there were two pens in the 85th minute and that we were drawing 2-2. Pah.

Shame about Owen. Still one of our best natural finishers who has proved time and again that he can score against the best. Still, at least we have Heskey

Another pointless thread by someone who just doesn't get it. Both Burley and Pardew are realists and have forgotten more about the game than some of the drama seeking attention wh*res here will ever know. Both have managed to get clubs promoted whereas there are some here who can't even manage a coherent arguement!

He did such a poor job against Norwich, Walsall and Huderfield didn't he? But why is it all about Pardew? The players have proved thy can do it against the best, they should take the blame when they don't perform against the poorer teams shouldn't they?

There are few certanties in life, but you could have bet your mortage on some of the comments here after a defeat. If someone had said at the Christmas that we would go until 6th March without losing a league game I would have been happy with that. This is Southampton FC we are talking about and very much like the Bristish summer, a few hot days then a thunderstorm. Under every single manager we had ever had we have beaten teams that you would expect us to lose to and lost games that we expected to win. Out of the last 5 league games we have had three excellent results and two disappointing results. Last season would probbaly would have lost most of those games. Ther is onr thing that no manager can guarantee but one thing that successful teams need - consistancy. If it was that easy then all teams would cancel each other out all of the time. AP made a valid point the other day. It is not the end of the world if we don't go up this season. The team will be stronger next year and in a better place to compete if we do go up then. And for all of the moaning minnie drama queens this morning, if you can't deal with supporting a team in the 3rd division perhaps you are supporting the wrong club?

Unlimited cash DD? Where did that come from? From what I can see they are working to a budget (nothing wrong in that by the way). I think the buys have been prudent, we are certainly not throwing money around like Man City (or Portsmouth used to!). But as I keep trying to tell you, it is not about how much you spend, it is who you spend it on. There are plenty of teams in Div 3 (in old money) that are competitive on a shoe string. For a number of years we survived in the top flight on a relative shoestring.

That's what I like about people like you mate, you don't read what is written, you just respond to what is in your head. For your information not once did I sneer and mock. I said that people needed to be patient if it didn't happen overnight (which it hasn't yet by the way). I never said it tkes three season to do anything. I said it took Lawrie Mac three seasons to get promoted again with some International quality players in his team. I pointed out that if this board had been around at the time he would have been slagged off after a season and a half and many would be calling for his head. For your information, from the start I thought we would struggle to make the play offs this season because of all of the reasons that we have done to death. I think Pardew is having a good season but I would not call it a success. If we do make the plays offs great. If not I think he is only one or two players short of a squad that will be a real force in this division next season, and that is all any manager can do. You can't buy your way out of these divisions, you play your way out of them. I think we have a manager capable of doing that I wish a few more people would give the bloke credit. He knows what he is doing, he knows that it can't be done overnight. He is obviously getting hacked off at the negativity in some quarters and really, who can blame him? Go back and actually read some of my posts please before you go off on one. I have said all along that all the team can do is it best in every game - you end up where you end up - not because of the money you spent but by what you manage to achieve over 90 minutes in each game. My team talks would be about trying to win every game and playing to the best of your ability. I doubt if Mr Pardew/s would be much different. What happens when the players cross the white line then is down to them. Something that seems to be forgotten nowdays (and yes, I am old enough to remember when we would spend all our time slagging or bigging up the players rather than the managers!). Success is getting out of the bloody awful division. Success is winning a cup. One is likely one is less likely. We are not there yet but we are getting there. Read my first post again. It is supporting our manager not knocking him and asking that the doubters and negative merchant on here do the same. For goodness sakes, we even had one well known posters cr*pping himself on here the other night praying that we would score 4 before he could relax!!! Does that show confidence in the manager or team? I don't think so!

Not much mate, apart from giving credit to a manager who is doing a decent job and not suggesting his job is on the line every time we hit a glitch.

Not quite true Mr Fry. Perhaps you would like to look back some months and find the thread that said not if we sack Pardew, but when. As for the longevity of Lawrie Mac, is it a coincidence that the two most successful managers we have had have served the longest time? Or that most of the successful managers in the Prem have been at their clubs for some time? I am not calling for Pardew to be given a 10 year contract right now. But I don't think it is unreasonable to say you are our manager for at least 18 months, go and do your job. Of course those people who think his job should be questioned every time we get a Wycombe result will not agree but then we now live in a world where overnight success if expected by every club and that every manager is only as god as his last game. Sadly.

There is something that doesn't quite stack up with those two, but who knows? If they have been misjudged then that makes a God awful situation worse in some respects...bad enough to lose your child, but if people think you are responsible... Whether they did something to her or not, as a parent myslef I cannot imagine what possessed them to leave young children alone in a house. They let Maddie down in a way that most of us will never understand and surely, at the very least, are guilty of child neglect and negligence?

As dear old Mr Godwin would have said, "You couldn't make it up." After the Wycome game the usual wrist slitters were moaning and groaning. Now all of a sudden we are Brazil. Until the next poor result again of course when it will all be doom and gloom again. In fact one individual was calling for Pardew to be fired "with extreme prejudice" if we are not ripping up the league by next Christmas??? Go figure. Spare me the drama queens and take a look at the bigger picture. With quiet dignity Alan Pardew has gone about turning this club from a bunch of losers on the brink of extinction into a team that can go places (up not down this time). Okay, for all of the reasons we know, we were slow out of the blocks at the start of the season with the lead weight of -10 points dragging at our heels. We are notoriously bad at adapting as a club. We never really got to grips with the CCC after relegation and probably thought that we only had to turn up in the 3rd Division and teams would roll over and play dead. Well they don't and it took us a while to find our feet. But we did and we put some decent results togther before Christmas. Pardew then dipped into the transfetr market again and strengthened and, so far, it looks like he got it bang on. After a run of games where teams were changed because of cup tied players, injuries and suspensions, the new players have now bedded in and we are looking very strong. There will always be a Wycombe but we have had more good results than bad this season yet there are plenty here just waiting for the next poor result to start having a pop at the manager. After what has happened last season and over the summer we, the fans, have every reason to feel optimistic about the future. Yes, down in large measure to our new Swiss benefactor, but also down to the work of Mr Pardew. To all of the moanning minnies out there, get off his back the next time we don't play like Brazil and just take a look at what he has achieved already since he has been here (and no, that is not down to Mr Corteses's silly public tantrum). Support your manger and live in the real world.Even before the excellent results against Norwich, Walsall and Huddersfield it was plain to see for posters who know something about football that we have a competitive club again. Be thankfull and stop *****ing when there are hiccups. We had those aplenty even under the mighty Ted Bates and Lawrie McMenemy too. There will be more to come but that is a part of football as much as it is a a part of life. Just look at the bigger picture for a change. For the first time in a long time it is worth looking at.

Funny that as we lost 4-1 at home soon after his ill judged public comments! Also as we had not been beaten this year before his ill judged public comments. Cortese is not a football man as Lowe wasn't. Let Pardew do his job and keep off his back. He knows what he is doing.

Now now Duncan, don't tell me you have forgotten the 6-0 trouncing of Wolves? Could that be because of George?

Don't worry, they will be back when we next draw a game!

Wouldn't it be nice if Mr Cortese could find it in his heart to say something complimentary about our recent form?

Perhaps John Terry's car was seen parked outside his house?