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Weston, I am not the only one who is fed up with Alpine's constant negativity and doomladen threads and posts. You only have to read this thread to see that. Nice that you are sticking up for your buddy though.

You don't need me to belittle you Alpine, you do that all by yourself.

But we don't know that. Whoever replaced him might have scored or made goals for others.

Didn't stop him getting stick on here though. Isn't he a bench warmer at Forest?

Delap and Oakley were both royally slagged off when they were here. Delap was derided as a total waste of money. Oakely left because he was offered a better deal elsewhere but he could have stayed if he had wanted.

Alpine is only "happy" when he has something to moan about. He has even abondoned his own thread and has been posting on another thread about Celtic and Lallana????

Many of these players got stick when they were here. Certainly McGoldrick was hailed as a waste of space in the 1st team. Relative to you and me, yes they are good players. Relative to the standard in the Premiership, they are mediocre at best.

I want Cheryl Cole but I don't think I am going to get her!

"Exodus of our best players" Why exactly? Really, you are such a drama queen Alpine.

One other thing I missed. Walk this league next season??? I don't read many posts where it says that. What I do see is optimism (yes I know that word to you is like Holy Water to a Vampire Alpine). We have a decent manager, some decent players and some money. Hopefully, if Mr Cortese is serious about ambition, he will make more money available in the Summer and we shall start the next campain with a settled management team and a better squad. So then, some reasons to be cheeful and OPTIMISTIC.

Our academy was really excellent at one point and you can see why the then CEO thought that we could promote from within and save lots of dosh. However as they matured a lot of them became very average. Would we really want McGoldrick back for example? A lot of them are average to good CCC players. They will probably be no more than squad players if they survive the rebuild after promotion. Walcott and Bale are the only two that I would be delighted to see back. Perhaps Baird too.

Same old "ride into town, shot it up, ride out again" cowboy mentality. My uncle served in Italy with the 8th Army and he said they were more afraid of the American artillary than they were of the Italians. I was in Seattle a few years ago when the Gulf War started. This guy heard my accent and came over for a chat. He was all over us Brits and hated the French so it was instant bonding. He had his young son with him and did nothing but talk about the war. His son then chipped up that they had been out buying ammo and described to me what the bullets could do to a man. I declined their kind offer to go out to their truck and look at their guns. The Dad told me as he walked way that if they invaded Seattle he would take a few with him! Scary.....Not so much that he was arming up for an invasion so much, more that he actually thought it could happen!

Oh dear. More negativity from Mr Doom. First up, did you see Adam play yesterday? In fact how many times have you seen him and Morgan play? You seem to know an awful lot about them from your bunker in Austria. Secondly, if a bigger club wants them, they want to go and we sell, it doesn't really matter what division we are in. Thirdly, so it didn't work out so well for Surman. I execpt Walcott has a different take. Fouthly, players come, players go. So what? Number five, Alf Ramsey left out one of the greatest goalscorers we have ever produced - a certain Jimmy Greaves - and replaced him with Geoff Hurst. Didn't work out too badly for us did it? (Unless you were supporting Germany that day of course?). Point 6, are you related to Howard Hughes? You strike me as someone who darn not leave the house in case you catch a virus or get knocked down by a bus. You really do take the biscuit Alpine. If there is nothing to worry about you can be sure that you will find something and then worry it to death. There is bound to be interest in some of our players as Pardew has put togther a decent team (not that you give him any credit for that). Same with teams like Norwich and Leeds. In fact I would say those two clubs have some better players than ours. Do you honestly think for one minute that getting promoted this season will make one iota of difference? Have you put your mortgage on us getting promoted this season or something? Why the obsession? Tell me, have you ever in all of your +12,000 posts ever started a positive thread????

Did you see the match Alpine? Have you ever wondered that perhaps people are getting together and posting on here that we were poor just to wind you up - and that we have been brilliant? Why do we need to sort it out? You seem to be very happy with things so long as we win so what is your probelm with being poor again and winning???

I think we should be focussing on letting other teams worry about us. Hopefully Mr Cortese will spend some more of the guvnors money and we shall be the team to watch, no matter who comes down!

I don't know what he has done to upset you mate? As long as it is a mathmatical possibility why shouldn't he talk about it? Actually Cortese has made more of a fuss about the play offs and Pardew the Cups.

Probably that you were happy that we played like sh*t but we still won.

Why indeed? We not only were going down the pan rapidly we very nearly ended up in the hands of Pinnacle. To say that we have dodged a bullet is an understatement. I think that there is still an assumption that we deserve to be bigger than we are. Just be thankful that we have a chance to rebuild. Some clubs never recover.

In which case why have you spent thousands of posts dissecting the performances and why do you keep calling for more goals even when we are 3 up???

Yep, lets sack the manager and show the footballing world what a great club we are by getting rid of someone who has not olny turned the club around, but actually won us a trophy. As for not winning today being "unacceptable", really some of you need to grow up. It is a game of football FFS. "Unacceptable" is the invasion of Poland, snatching a child, taking a life. Did Ferguson throw himself on his sword after losing to Chelsea? Surely that was "unacceptable"???? Losing football matches happens to every manager. If it was so "unacceptable" they would all be out of work now.

I don't think any of us have been saying it has been an excellent season. But it is far from bad and certainly not bad enough for us to be thinking about changing our manager (again). As has been said time and again on here, if we had been told we would have won a trophy at Wembley and still be within a slight sniff of the play offs this time last year most of us would have been absolutely delighted. Those without cr*p cloured spectacles can see that a great deal of progress has already been made and if Pardew magics up some more quality players in the summer there is no reason why next year cannot be better. If some people want to wail and wring their hands about what might have been this season let them wallow in their own negativity. We have a decent owner, a decent manager, we are having a decent season with reason to believe better things are coming our way. If you can't be happy with that after the last few seasons you will never be satisfied.

It is not the formation that is the issue. There are teams that play 1 up front with plenty of goals on the board. It is how you play it. So long as you get players forward when attacking it doesn't really make any difference. We actually went through a period of scoring lots of goals with 5 in midfield and people were complaining when we changed to 442!

What exactly is a "stupid" mistake? All managers make mistakes that some fans think are "stupid". Thing is, if they know so much why aren't they managing a football club? Having just won a trophy and turning this club around in less than a season, I expect that Pardew has already "resurected" himself. I don't see him as arrogant at all. I also don't think you can suggest that someone's career is on the slide because they are managing in Div 1. Perhaps he sees that he can do a job here and get a decent club back to the Premiership. I don't think he would have a problem find a CCC club and is probably better than a number of Prem managers. Please could you explain to us why he is apparently so "know it all"???

As you say, the stats don't back up what a lot of the negative posters think is going on.

Have you moved to Scotand Alps???