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Surely a "fan" is someone who is fanatical about their club. If they prefer to go away and put money into other clubs pockets (including those around us in the relegation scrap) they can hardly be called the "bestest fans" can they?

No more so than a number of seasoned English managers, including one manager who recently managed in the Prem and has been sacked already.

So if it was you, would you say that Watford offered you more money? We told him we wanted him to stay, what else could we have done? He obviously has other reasons for moving so fair play to him. Shame about the negative spin but then you get used to that here with so many people wanting to pull the club down from within.

Our defence has been pants to date so losing one player from that unit, no matter how good, does not have to be a bad thing. The changes might work in a favour and it is encouraging that the defence sounded more solid yesterday. As for a last minute thing Alpine, apparently the "Dutchie" as you call him has been tracked since the summer, so maybe, just maybe, the club do have back up plans and do not just do things on the fly as you seem to think? Whilst is it very easy to sit behind a comuter keyboard and slag people off, the wrist slitters amongst us also have to realsie that managers/coaches have got a really tough job. If the squad isn't right in August or if you lose key players through injury (as we have done) you have to struggle through half a season before you can do much about it. Then come january you can be left with a situation that you lose some of your "better" players and have to regroup. Despite the stick that JP gets for his lack of experience in CCC football, he is doing as well as a number of managers with experience (and he did better than one very experience Prem manager who has since lost his job!). Hopefully, given time, JP will turn out to be a very good manager for us and if the latest changes to the defence mean more clean sheets in this half of the season, then losing Cork will have had a positive effect on the club.

Alpine has all so the answers so we should be led by his response. Just the other day he was telling us who "right" he was about everything (apart from his unqualified support for Wilde of course). Sadly though, having declared that the club was finished because Cork and Pearce had left we then go and grind out three points!!! Early days of course, but as we have a fighting chance of staying up and as we have yet to go into administration then perhaps Alpine you are not always right about everything? As for JP, well again, as Pearson very nearly took as down but managed to get the points we needed to stay up in the final game and was then lauded as a manager who needed to stay...I expect Alpine that if JP keeps us up (and lets remember he doesn't have the resources that Peason had) then you would be fully supporting him (and the club/board) next season?

Alternatively Rudi might actually be injured.......

I think we should start asking if he has left yet. All this wailing and wringing of hands is a bit of a joke though isn't it? Skacel has been roundly slagged off here as a failure. This time last year the perceived wisdom on here was that the "journeymen" (Skacel, John etc.) were a waste of money and that we should play the kids. Now it seems that we are treating said journeymen really badly??? As my old mate Um Pahars would say (with lots of rolley eyes things), you couldn't make it up.

Well, if he does or doesn't, anyone would have to have really thick skin to take on a job like this. As for his other half, I wonder how any wife deals with the fact that their hubby goes of to work and gets called a w*nker day in day out.

Obviously not, as one of the Undead. Really, what does it matter?

I am not the least bit ashamed of myself and why should I be? The management team you talk of nearly spent us into administration and we only managed to stay up on the last day of the season. I would hardly say it was a "damn fine management team". You really need to get past this strang obsessiveness and try and look at things objectively for a change Stanley.

Alpine Rupert Lowe Michael Wilde George Burley Short on laughs but it would be priceless to let Alpine loose on those three.

Great news. We do need something different up front and Saga can be a quality player for us again. I'd still like to see another forward come in though as much as that is unlikely.

Doesn't exactly fit with his claim that he is up for a new challenge though does it? And the article says that he has found himself at left back this season??? Hmmm

If Simon Jordan was at this club you lot would be at his throat as much as Lowes!!!

I agree with CB Fry. But of course the main point is that if the others had not made such a pig's ear of things after he left he would not be back now, would he!

So then, no mention of the fact that he pulled the plug on a move to Ipswich because they wouldn't match his wage demands???

Haven't seen the incident yet but having been sent off a few times myself...if he challenged for the ball with his studs showing he was asking for a red, you just can't do that anymore.

Yes I do really care Ottery, and I can see no viable alternatibe to Lowe right at this minute. That is not to say that I don't also pray for some benign mega rich sugar Daddy to come and save us. Take Lowe out of the equasion for a moment. What is required in the current circumstances given that no one has the cash to bail us out? Someone who can take tough unpopular decisions? Someone who can work in a tight financial situation? Wilde, Crouch, Hone, Hoos etc tried and failed and we are in a bigger mess now. If Lowe is not here to make tough cals then someone else would have to wouldn't they? If Lowe has sold a three year plan to the backers and bought the club some time, then fair play to him. If a creditable alternative pitches up and finds some more cash to play with, great. Personally I don't think that alternative is Crouch or Merrington or McMemency etc, so who does that leave?

Ottery, I think we are all saddended about what has been happening here for a number of years. Some people think it is all down to one man, others think it is down to a number of reasons. As we saw when Lowe left for a while, managing the expectations of the fans of a club like SFC is not easy and the new bunch did not fare well either. I totally agree with FCs post. I think we are where we are because of money (or lack of it). If agree with Lowe at all it comes down to living within our means, or trying to. I don't see the point in coming on here every day and giving him or JP a kicking. They are both doing their best (I believe) in difficult circumstances, what else can you ask? Ok, so there were/are other options. Whose to say they would pan out any better. None of us (no Um Pahars, not even you) are privvy to what goes on with the bankers or in Board meetings - and those that think they know are usually fed spin from others with their own agendas. Negativity is pulling this club apart (and who is to say it didn't play a part in Cork's decsions to leave?). Constructive critisism is fine, but who ofetn do you see that here? Usually it is the same old Lowe out, we are all doomed because of him stuff. Rate him or not, JP is our manager right now and needs all the support he can get, as does the club. We need to find a way to look past the blame game and witch hunting mindset and get behind SFC. We also need to see that jsut because someone doesn't not pin every single mistake down to Lowe that they are not his supporters of him in disguise. Of all the posters here I can think of only two who overtly support Lowe outright.

Which I suppose means that you think that I am Rupert Lowe? Every time Lowe opens his mouth people want him to shut up. Fans like to hear from their managers don;t they. Hardly the managers fault if they can't conjure up a Churchillian speach at the drop of a hat. Please tell me how many managers that you think are worth listening to on a regular basis? While you are at it, what issues do you have with FCs post (do you think that he is Rupert Lowe too?) Oh and here's another thought...if I am Rupert Lowe, are you Lawrie McMenemy? Finally, why is it that anyway who tries to find some balance is seen as being a RL plant?

I have voted for MC as a right sided striker but Big Ron would get my vote for our best out and out centre forward.

How so? Do I come on here and slag off people at the club every day? Do I come and post negative comments about the club every day?

Yes he did make mistakes, but so did the other players. Only he and Wright were singled out for special attention on here as I rember.

It happens in every business. I have left meetings and told my staff that A is happening only to find out a few days later that things have changed and B is happening. Jan can either say I don't know what is happening and make himself look like he desn't know what is going on, or he can say what is happening right now in answer to a question and be made to look like he doesn't know what is going on in hindsight if things change. To be fair, doesn't this happen at every club? Phone calls are made all of the time, decisions changed all of the time, spin spun all of the time. It doesn't just happen here.

Apparently mnay people at the club read this site, including Mr Wilde on occasions, so I was say yes is the answer.