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According to Ofsted, these are the fundamental British values that one or more of the regular posters on here think that British Muslims do not adhere to. Democracy The Rule of Law Individually Liberty Mutual Respect

So you can’t really give us a proper list but you know that all Muslims don’t share any of those values. Ok. Sounds pretty Islamophobic to me. Examples? The “thank God my wife isn’t a Muslim” quote. Your claim that all UK Muslims were complicit in terrorists acts because they didn’t go to the police with information. The inference being that all Muslims have links to terrorists. Your constance defence of people who criticism normal British born/based Muslims. Back to British values. Would you say that British values involve welcoming asylum seekers to our shores, treating them well, assessing their claims and dealing fairly with them according to the outcome or either sinking the boats or shipping all of them off to an African country whether they have a legitimate claim or not? Do you think that there are any gay Muslims? Do all Muslims believe that homosexuality should not be tolerated? Do you think that there are still non Muslims who believe that homosexuality should not be tolerated and have no tolerance of trans people.

I was wrong about the Tebbit test. Here it is in greater detail. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/28/lord-tebbit-migrants-grandfather-war

I took time to clarify because you were either being deliberately obtuse or not very bright. You are very happy to make “extremely serious charges” against others on a football forum but kick off when you get some of your own treatment. If it is really that serious, sue me. Let’s get back to the crux of the matter. Please provide us with your definitive list of what constitutes “British values.” Wasn’t one of Norman Tebbit’s tests to understand the rules of cricket?

Where do these views fall on the political spectrum? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/26/nigel-farage-under-fire-said-muslims-not-share-british-values An interesting investigation on the use of the term “far right” when applied to the Reform Party. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/its-a-mistake-to-call-reform-uk-far-right/

He has got the title of Biggest Narcissist of the Forum sown up every year 😉

Fair do’s. I didn’t know about his coaching experience with England.

It didn’t need clarification. I made that clear in the first post. I don’t share your values. I also think you are a hypocrite. You call me out for my criticism of the Israeli government and military and their treatment of a minority group but at every opportunity you diss all Muslims. You call out what you perceive to be antisemitism whilst practising Islamophobia yourself. I guess you will be voting Reform then? It explains why you support the far right mouthpieces that I criticise.

Explain to us these “British values” please. Let’s explore your Islamophobic views shall we?

Only it didn’t need any clarification. And yet again you get upset when others criticise politics far removed from the centrist/moderate right.

Where do these views fall on the political spectrum? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/26/nigel-farage-under-fire-said-muslims-not-share-british-values http://religiousreader.org/why-nigel-farages-anti-muslim-statements-are-nothing-new/

This was what I posted yesterday which makes it abundantly clear that I would support PR even though it would give more of a voice to those who views I find abhorrent. I really can’t be any clearer than that.

For goodness sake. Just read what I have said. I have even spelt it out for you.

An equitable adjustment to the tax bands is long overdue and it is disappointing that Labour haven’t had the balls to do something about that yet in their pledges. Obvious why though. I think most people would agree that those with the broadest shoulders should carry the most weight. The trouble is more and more of the burden has fallen more and more on those who can least afford it whilst those at the top of the economic tree have seen their burden proportionality lessened. Hopefully now the idea of a trickle down economy is finally a busted flush.

You calling someone a mentalist is rich. Again, go back a read what I said. I’m sure you would see the “positive” if someone started repeating the rhetoric of Hitler or Stalin 😂. You see everything through a hypochondriac prism. You need to think about changing the lens. I shall spell it out for you. I believe that people, even people I vehemently disagree with, have a right to express their opinions. Other people also have the right to disagree. I start to have issues when people like you (to use your own language) pretend to be “liberal” but constantly jump on anyone with any centrist views and support those with further right views. At least have the balls to be honest about your true agenda as Duckhunter is. The bloke makes Attila the Hun look like a raging pinko but at least he has the front to say what he really means.

The main issue here is that he is 36 years old and has had a series of injuries. If they are thinking of buying him to play I think the money should be spent elsewhere. If they are buying him as a coach, is it because he was from the academy and the optics are good or is it because he is one of the best coaches out there?

If I wanted to silence them I would support their right to have a voice in Parliament would I? I suggest you make more of an effort to read what I say rather than what you think I am saying. As for the “far right” term that I use to describe much of the Tory Party now, and Reform, does this article mean that Europe is being taken over by fascists? The term “far right” is used to describe an element of politics that is well away from the centre but not quite at the end of that spectrum. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22p9dl415o.amp

I would certainly agree with the need for PR but would prefer to see more centrist “blob” parties than the likes of UKIP, BNP. Sadly, with a more democratic system it gives a voice to more loonies, xenophobes and flag shaggers as well as the more well balanced people.

It is an election. He is the leader of one of the parties. Brown MP? Would that be a brown MP whose parents were immigrants when I was making a point about their policy on immigration. You really need to do better Delldays. Before voting for any of these chancers, I can thoroughly recommend James O’Brien’s book, How They Broke Britain. A well researched dissection of how we got where we are today.

Given that Keir Starmer’s wife is Jewish it makes the slur even more unpleasant. Will he get labelled as antisemitic? Probably not. No one said a word about Islamophobia when he made offensive remarks against Muslims. Surprised that no one picked up on Farage’s racist slip of the tongue. When talking about Sunak’s gaff in returning early from France, he said that Sunak “doesn’t have our instincts.” That would be the same Rishi Sunak who was born and raised here Nige.

But no one had to die. Get the cease fire sorted and negotiate a deal for the release. No danger to the IDF. No danger to the hostages. No danger to the civilians.

If you don’t want to engage with me you don’t have to. No one is holding a gun to your head. And you can tell the other bloke that no one is running scared of him. He really isn’t that important. I have amended my ignore list while the election is on because I am curious as to how the usual suspects view it. I have no curiosity at all about his views.

It could well be Delldays.

Another POV that you won’t like. I guess that these people are ignorant to? https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2023/apr/24/un-ihra-antisemitism-definition-israel-criticism

You have just made some friends for life so well done. I am no more antisemitic than anyone sick of a conflict that has been going on for decades without any sign of an end. I am sick of seeing women and children being blown to bits. I am sick of seeing aid trucks ransacked before they reach their destinations. I am sick of being called names just because I think that an ultra nationalistic government is using its disproportionate power to commit genocide. You are another one of those people who use belittlement to shut someone down because you don’t like what they are saying. I am sorry that I do not have the monumental intellect that you do. I am also sorry that you don’t like my posts. Maybe use that huge brain of yours to figure out a way of not seeing them (here’s a hint, use the ignore button).