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I don’t agree.

For someone with no power he certainly seems to get his views heard on major news channels regularly. He might not currently have the power of a Putin or Trump, but he clearly has a loud voice and a wide opportunity to influence people. Don't underestimate the ability of people like him to feed the prejudices of those easily led by far right propaganda. There was a time not that long ago where clear lies and bullshit would make it past the news editors. Now they are broadcast regularly and get as much if not more attention to the truth. What is the old saying? A lie can be halfway around the world before the truth has got its shoes on?

Seriously? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/07/trump-panama-canal-greenland

Perhaps if he bothered to read the reports he would know the answer? Funny how Jenrick and others who are so angered about this now did bugger all about it when they were in power. Where was the fully comprehensive report that they now call for and why didn’t they implement the findings of their own report?

Did this “clear bias” contain outright lies, misinformation and actual smears?

Have I missed Musk’s tweet about sexual misconduct at McDonalds? As it doesn’t involve Robinson or Muslims I guess he isn’t bothered.

The BBC have also broadcasted Musk’s comments, amplifying his words beyond his own platform. I don’t recall them broadcasting lies and misinformation either. Can you show me the quotes where the BBC use Musk’s tactics of blatant lies and disinformation?

So he can’t be all bad because he calls a decent man childish names and wants a multiple convicted felon released from jail? You have some very strange standards.

Just what is needed, more common sense and less pointless politicking. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp836w074gko.amp

You don’t see the difference between the richest man in the world using his massive social media platform and influence to spread lies, misinformation and his own political agenda and a few people delivering leaflets then? It figures. I’m guessing your next reincarnation on here will be as ElonMusk69.

You can see where Elon gets it from. https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/elon-musk-tommy-robinson-keir-starmer-prime-minister-b2674961.html

I guess so. Maybe they have said, depending on who goes, a loan or two might be possible further down the line?

And you really are a piece of work too. If you had put money on me searching for Jewish grooming gangs you would have lost it. The reason we know so much about Asian grooming gangs is because they are been through the system and are in jail. I know that you are your fellow forum Muslim haters don’t get it, but it is very apparent that you get yourselves more worked up about Muslims when they do anything illegal than you do for non Muslims. How many times did Delldays/Batman post about non Muslims child abusers? How much time have you and your like spent posting about the child sexual abuse by the Christian churches (and very long term cover ups)? Remind me just how many times Musk has tweeted about the sexual abuse in Christian organisations? Where are all the threads on here (I know of one because I actually started it!). There has already been a national enquiry into child sex abuse in this country. It took 7 years to complete and is very comprehensive. Why do we need another one? Instead of having a go at Starmer and Jess Phillips, perhaps Musk should be asking the previous Tory government why they didn’t implement any of the recommendations (not that it has got anything to do with him anyway)? Musk is a great advocate for free speech because it enables him to spread lies, disinformation and make mischief. Sadly he has an audience who swallow it hook line and sinker. Let’s just focus on Muslims shall we, it isn’t as if it is a much wider issue. Sexual abuse is sexual abuse. It doesn’t become worse if it is carried out by someone of a Muslim persuasion.

Well they certainly aren’t going to be from right leaning sources are they! I was working in the Criminal Justice System during that period and if there was a conspiracy not to bring certain ethnic types to justice you would think that we would have known about it.

Apologies if this has been mentioned earlier but I have just read that the club are having a meeting tomorrow (7 days after the transfer window slammed open) to discuss transfers. Tomorrow? It begs the questions why not sooner and also why weren’t they a part of the managerial appointment discussions? It was pretty obvious on Juric’s appointment that we were going to be relegated so you would like to think that the options about how we approached the second half of the season with a view to competing in the Championship next season would already have taken place. It seems to me though that what is considered “dead wood” currently (for example BBD) would be very useful next season so who do you actually get rid of now?

Hypochondriac needs to read the whole of these articles. He probably won’t because he would rather just post laughing emojis than engage his brain. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65174096.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63307015.amp https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem

If I remember correctly the enquiries didn’t find that these people were not brought to book over fear of accusations of cover ups. It was more to do with incompetence within the police and social services. The last government had 14 years to deal with child sexual abuse. It is a scandal that the findings of a seven year enquiry have yet to be implemented. When Musk fails, as do a few posters on here, is that the problem is far wider than Asian gangs. It has been a problem within the Christian church for hundreds of years. It is a problem in the home where children are abused by family members. Predators predate. These people are opportunists and will operate where ever they find the opportunity. By just focussing on the Asian rape gangs not only is Musk ignoring the wider problem, he is also displaying his racist tendencies. Musk is not a “hero” as dubbed by Musk. He is ignorant and bigoted. Even his statement about Farage is wrong. Without Farage Reform would be now where. He attracts like minded people like a magnet and he is also now drawing in people around the edges because he is playing the populist card á la Trump. Like Trump, he knows just what buttons to press and what types of red meat works. Reform is the far right of the Tory Party trying to dress itself up as a sheep. Put a less divisive leader in place of Farage and you might as well just stick with the Tories.

You have to feel sorry for the poor love. With the forum being down for a few days and no one to stalk he would have had to put a full shift in at work and spend time with his family instead of spending his time trolling on the internet.

As you will know well, I support neither of them one iota. I suspect that Farage is only trying to distance himself from Robinson because he feels that he will be sullied by Tommy’s thuggish reputation.

You beat me to it. https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/02/suella-braverman-bizarrely-claims-a-land-border-italy-turkey-22284132/amp/

Poor Nigel! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigeln-farage-elon-musk-reform-b2674035.html

Whereas you bend over backwards trying to find someone not racist because, apparently, he only hates Muslims. You have an issue with Scientology. Do you also have issues with the ideology of the National Front and the English Defence League? Robinson has been heavily involved in both organisations. Experts in this field (not keyboard warriors on a football forum) who deal with these issues day in, day out, say that he is racist. Any time anyone displays any animosity towards Muslims, no matter what their backgrounds, you find a way to play down their hate. By the same token, you tell us your Muslim uncle is wrong when he tells you that people should not take his prophet in vain. You cut Muslim haters slack but not Muslims. Your male is wrong but Tommy is okish because he only hates Muslims. That is what it sounds like from your posts over the years.

With respect you can have views on immigration that are not specifically racist.

Pretty much spot on, a classic narcissist who believes the world revolves around him. He uses the populist playbook - radical conservatism, authoritarianism, ultra nationalism, nativism, chauvinism and xenophobia superbly well because it is all based on on selfishness and narcissists understand that more than anybody else. He uses far right ideology as a trade off. He gives people what they want and in return they inflate his own ego.

The definition of a racist is a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethic group. Tommy Robinson is a racist. Elon Musk is a racist too.