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She's been practicing, but the elbow needs to be a little straighter to maximise the impact.

Like this bit: "The Board of the Football League has now agreed to review the penalties levied on clubs that go into administration to see if they require strengthening" Guess it be too late in the case of our fishy friends though

England to be sent packing on Sunday 27th, after losing to Germany. New Zealand to come second in their group F, but get knocked out by Holland in an embarrassingly close game. Spain not to conceed until the Semi Finals. South Africa to knock Argentina out of the cup. Mexico to play Brazil on the 6th July in Cape Town.

The latest skate fan's plan. Refuse to pay anyone off, and take the point deduction instead. http://www.fansonline.net/pompey-fans/article.php?id=210

Boycott the lawnmower FFS.

Just thought I'd point out this post (from Pompey Online). Think it clarifies why I prefer the slow langishing death to the quick liquidation option:

Nope.. they're still thinking about adding to the wage bill: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Harewood-I39m-free-if-you.6346712.jp

If they had brains they'd ferry to Eire, then fly to somewhere like Amsterdam or Paris for a connecting flight. But then had they brains they wouldn't have a banning order in the first place.

Tranmere Away 0-0 Certain posters make the main board a no-go-zone for non-wrist slitters for a week. The rest of us enjoy the sun, relax with beers and BBQ's and recognise that it's not the start we wanted, but equally it's not a disastrous result.

Wonder whether Gaydamak will retain ownership of the land surrounding Fratton: 1) if he opts to walk away from the £34m 2) if he maintains his claim to be a creditor and risks HRMC prosecution. My guess is that with few assets in the UK, the land surrounding Fratton might be the only part of Gaydamak's assets which a UK court might be easily able to impound.

You are right that there three ways to avoid the -15. However, the point I was making is that it now seems very unlikely that the current CVA proposal will be agreed. They could of course try to get a different agreement passed, but the more favorable it is to the creditors, the less attractive it will be to a prospective buyer. Chainrai (to date the only plausible new owner), is likely to be put off by the Griffin proposal, as there would be little chance of him getting his hands on the parachutes nor league money. It would seem this option is possible, but on a tight timescale. I can't see how HMRC can be satisfied while still leaving an attractive prospect for any new owner to buy into. Finally, yes, they do have the option of prolonging things even further, by delaying the inevitable. As already mentioned, the clock is ticking on this delay, Android only has 21 months left. As far as I can see all this would mean is that any point deductions are delayed, in the meantime Android can try to offload the higher earners, and replace them with, err, that's right, only the youth team and reserves can be used to replace first team players. I'd love for Android the go down this route, sell the players, play the kids, relegate the club, and then find point deductions waiting at the end of the journey. Don't forget the -15 has previously been 'awarded' to clubs who have emerged from administration with a CVA. If the league want to deduct points, they will. Quite simply, while not certain, it now looks more likely than not that the club with start next season on at least -15.

Wow, a sensible plan. Sell off the high earners, reduce running costs to £5m pa. Then use the rest of the income (c. £6.5m pa to pay off the creditors). Repeat for five years until creditors have received a fair amount. I particularly like the way that, despite not anticipating successive relegations, the plan budgets for it... Few creditors can agree to Android's CVA now. -15 (and the rest) are very likely. Of course, if Chainrai realises he can't get a club on the cheap, he might just pull the plug and start the winding up himself. Looks like the Skates have two choices, a quick death or a slow one.

Didn't one of the mods mention a crackdown on homophobic remarks just the other day? I'm sure the line has been crossed on this thread.

Think he failed to see the HMRC 'double your debt' trump card.

One of these? http://peakwreckhunters.blogspot.com/search/label/brecon

... under the former chairman. Thank goodness for Cortese.

Spend some time on a Charlton forum. Their fans are resigned to selling players. They mutter about £30 million debts. Selling Bailey is mentioned as a way of potentially avoiding selling a handful of other players. Charlton seems to be where we were at the when we replaced Pearson with Poortvliet; depressed, resigned, shrouded in gloom (albeit Charlton aren't in the Championship). IMO the only way Charlton will mount a challenge this season is if the rest of the league all plays well below par.

The gratitude of every home in our City, in our County, and indeed throughout the South, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to Dune who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in his constant challenge and mortal danger, is turning the tide of the forum by his prowess and by his devotion. Never in the field of Saints Web was so much contempt owed by so many to so few. All our hearts go out to the crazies, whose nutty posts we see with our own eyes day after day…

Think we have a winner: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=23015

Thank you Markus and Nicola. If you do read this site, I'd like to apologise for the serial insults thrown in your direction by a poster formally known as Stanley/Mole. Please don't consider him to be representative of the opinions of the city of Southampton. If you can overlook him (oh and the fat chap from Romsey), the rest of us think you are doing a wonderful job.

So a shiny new Panasonic can't tempt you to switch? I'm quite tempted by the new (unannounced iPhone), but I'm not sure I can afford it (unless they discount them to £125). Unless this rumoured price drop to celebrate Apple Inc's 34th birthday is true, I might just have to stick with my old phone for a while longer. I think I might cut down on iTunes purchases to spite them. That'll learn em... Just because their phone is the shiniest in the division doesn't mean they can impose this unfair phone tax. Solidarity my right wing commrade. But what can we do, this is capitalism in motion (that's your dream right?).

Good call. As a consumer, perhaps I should shop around. Eastleigh next season?

I wanted to buy a new LED TV, but Sony won't give me any form of finance. They seem to want the money upfront. I think I might boycott Japan.

Yes you do. As a consumer you have the right not to purchase the product. If you object to the price, don't pay it.