OldNick

Here here to that Wes

I doubt his business partner is too happy either

that is quite an amusing post Ginge. The club has the same mix as any other, fans who will attack fans physically at games as they did not like the thought that somebody did not hate RL (did you see those sickening scenes against Donny) some who will debate,some who will moan and some who will support, some who sit on their a#### and cant be bothered others who will travel the country to be disappointed, no different than any other club

Wes i really dont wish to go down all the old arguements but we had at the start of his return a 6.3m overdraft that the bank required to be reduced to 5m. We could not do so without farming out players and going down some really odd routes to get the costs down. Appearance money is another factor when you play players. A friend of my daughters plays for Luton, even if he only goes on for 10 seconds he gets £500 !!! can you imsagine what some of ours would get. As for the spiral down at the time of the reverse takeover, it well be the time, why nit when the old board would not fund the purchase of Trevor francis in the season we finished second??? To me you have to act/plan to the situation at that time and after relegation spending massivily was a gamble and some of us pointed that out but were accused of being biased as we were supposedly sore as RL had been removed. Not the case but the warnings were there. I like yourself dont need to be right we just need a football club and it is starting to dawn on us all that it may not be there.

In your heart of hearts Im not sure you really are sincere with the first bit and will quite like us to go under. TL has not told us the reasons why he did not go forward. He has nothing to lose now if he did.He will always be seen as (perhaps unfairly) the person who not only wasted the clubs time (which is of course very limited) money due to administrators fees and the damaging of our hero. MLT will not come unscathed, as he will (again unfairly) be seen as gullible to have let him be persuaded to be the front man. Im sure TL is a smashing man but as Shankley said football is not a life or death it is more important than that and there are a lot of sore people who will give him grief forever over it if we do fold. I myself do not hold him responsible, but from where I am now I can see why he is. Fry (both of them ) do not come out of it with flying colours and again if it is found that Pinnacle did not pay the deposit but another, why did M Fry give exclusivity?

have you been in a local taxi??? a choice of personally being carted around in a range rover or squeezed into a ford sierra that has only just had the voimit cleaned up from last nights pickups from Reflex etc. I think I would be more worried if they had hailed a cab.

These frunds will definately be used in paying debts and the day to day running of the club. The administrator will almost certainly take a a commission for 'doing the deal' The wages will be paid in the next few days.

they may get picked up from a Swiss resident who lives here.

where did you get that from then Gaffer? If they are gone surely it is curtains, surely not another foreign group

thats the Dunkirk spirit...if you were french of course.

what text?

Alps if you cannot see that there is something odd about that and no way RL would have done so intentionally then you are not thinking too hard. 1 thing we all agree with is RL loved his money. He would know as soon as he put us into admin he'd lose a lot of it if not all. Therefore he would have done anything to stave it off and that would have included selling any player during the jan window. Barclays had their man in on board meetings (a avid saints fan) he would know that the timing of admin would cost us -10 last or the following season and the implications of that. I know that if i was in his position I would have warned the club that the support was likely to be withdrawn and so go into admin the day before not a few days after. I dont wish to be drawn down the routes of long RL debates, he is past not future, but fundamentally he was as surprised as all of us when Barclays pulled the plug. i suggest you read between the lines of Dubai Phils post today and you may get a feel for what MAY have happened.

exactly and so it is madness to have wanted us to start there by wishing to go into administration.

on another thread on here about fialka deal still on. He says that they are negotiating about an extra 5 point penalty.

so he says it is all about another extra 5 points.

I started going in 68 Leeds home evening game.

that is madness at this point in time. Whoever now takes us on will have real problems getting decent players to join us, let alone managers.Going into administration is/has been a disaster for everyone except Begbies Taylor (although they may look fairlty stupid if we do go down the pan) and any of the players sold. Do you believe we will get anywhere soon if the buyer has to rely on buying us at a snip?

Hey trousers remember when we put up conspiacy theories on the same day? Spooky eh

Surely the most damning thing is TL's silence in not coming out and telling the world what was the problem. The FL have made their stance tl let it be known that there was nothing exceot the -10 (sporting sanctions) Now if it was me Id be sure to come out and say 'no that is not correct it was xyz' He has nothing to lose as his reputation is down the swanny and if MLT has any sense so has his charitygolf days and friendship

I dont want Hoddle even if it means we get relegated

he deserves to have a good pay day and a last chance to play in the PL, might even make the WC squad Lol

Guarenteed to Disappoint FC. It will always do as it says on the tin

MLT has nothing to be ashamed of. I dont think he shouold ask for people to give TL and co slack though as not only have they messed around and cost the club money paying the administrator but also duped our hero.

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of course stacking up massive overdrafts had nothing to do with now. It was a cummalative problem not just one or 2 people.