OldNick

In future I will have to word my posts carefully for the lack of understanding. I think it was fairly obvious it was my opinion. As for the last bit I think you are out of order. You just being a late comer to these forums would not have seen the abuse i took night after night defending people at the club.From the Devil through to Kelvin. I didnt change my mind under the attacks then, but in the case of Pinnacle Jackson etc I have listened read and tried to get a balance if there has been a fair debate that help change opinion.I of course cannot let you be privvy to PM's as well. Pinnacle I was sceptical of from early on, I have becone more positive about them in the last 2 days, that may niot be clever but I cant explain why I have a felling that they may just come good.No info to suggest it, but a weird feeling of hope. Probably just hope or I may be pregnant (Im giving MB some ammo here)

Ginge I odnt need to go to the kids ward to understand perspective thanks

Au contraire monsewer au contraire. I was very vocal about that , as were a few others.They tried to shout us down but the few did see the madness of King Wilde

I cant understand why fairly smart people would roll out somebody who would be quickly rubbished by a few clicks on the internet.That alone doesnt add up and I cant see why as yet Pinnacle are trying to make a smokescreen. Fry I doubt is amused as he is being to made to look foolish in accepting their bid in the first place.Clapham has not been posting and I do wonder how the trade willl view Fry's performance. I doubt his reputation will be enhanced by a football club under his watch being liquidated for the first time (of our size) Ego's will be bruised and I hope that may make Fry move his a### and concentrate his mind fully into getting a bid done, no more of his games with sudden appearances of overseas biddes may help. I have for quite some time been worried about his complacency and wished then that he took MJ's bid on the table and at least he could have shook that off early doors by calling their bluff.Just accepting may have seen them either pay up or run a mile (MJ's group had a bid on the table weeks ago and well before Pinnacle. Yes I know all about him, but it would have finished his stuff then) Pinnacle may then have not rushed before having their money people fully on board. Of course the defenders of fry (who is not working for the best for my interests as a fan) would be trying to get the most but we didn't have the time, he no doubt is used to when playing bidder against bidder in normal commerce. I hope Pinnacle do the business, if not I will jump on the Swiss wagon and then if they do not come up trumps Im with the carpet baggers

I cant understand why I feel this way but I have a feeling there still may be a twist in this sorry tale.

this is why we are never going to be united. It is not just them FFS look back to Askham, Wiseman LC and all the other jokers who said nothing to stop the rot and also made decisions to overspend.We have a lot of people to blame but at this stage we pray/hope/etc etc

this is for the Lounge, 1 is a disloyal frigging Skate.

If I was a betting man I would put my money on the Salz group, if they still are waiting to pounce of course.The club would be a bargain at 5-6m. Even if we get -25 the club could be bought with no debt and move on from there.We the fans would have ot be patient and I assume only 7-10 would attend until the good times arrived.Some will say they will not get it for 5-6 m, but they will when all else fails and we are at the liquidation stage.Yes we will have minus 25 but Salz and co wont have any worries as they will be the 'saviours' and we of course will be eternally grateful for them to come in.I myself will accept theor ownership but will always be grudging

As you would no doubt agree , he has done nothing wrong. I believe it will be others who will have the finger pointed at.

we've heard it all before. I do hope it is not the boy who cried takeover too much

Following from an earlierpost do you think -10 would mean us being relegated, because if so Pinnacle shouldnt consider bidding , as with a decent manager and a few tweaks we should make the play-offs easily even with that start. Now if the hold up is because we really may be facing -25 come out and tell us and Im sure people would be more understanding. ps Farmer, I think you are a decent lad to come on and face the fans on here.I personally believe you have done it all for the best reasons, and should hold your head up.If it comes to nothing Im not sure we will be so understanding of others.

I said you wuld not expect ot buy the club at that level. There are said to be people waiting with 5m. They have been waiting all along and would have factored in -25 and relegation.The stadium alone would expect to generate plenty of business without football just as a venue and business centre.

I think we both wonder why things have been as they are and so perhaps.

that is something I couldnt fathom , I mentioned that last night. TL and co would have known the sleuths would be checking straight away, so why wheel him out?

but it would be at a much reduced price.Obviously not at 14m or even 10m

At the Forum match I was told that a bunch of saints fans (and some others)put up a sham takeover bid for Leeds. They took it a long way before being found out. Iwonder how much the Leeds fans who were duped feel now.

it depends though doesn't it. if we have a choice of no club or starting at -25 you'd take the big hit. The minus 10 would be a problem but it was not the thing that could stop us getting to the play-offs. the crowds would hit the 22 k mark with a team doing well even in this league. Talk to the Bournemouth directors and they will tell you doing well in the L1 will give you bigger crowds than at the bottom of the Championship. Even without the -10 we wouldnt get guarenteed promotion and so if it really is about the -10 you should inform your people that -10 is not beyond saving and we could make the lucrative playoffs or better if guided correctly. 10 points can be made up, look at Donny who were cut adrift last season and trhey ended up comfortably in mid table well above our points total.

That is a fair point.

Exactly the coffers will be squeezed to right to the last second, and the moment there seens that the meter is full it will be goodnight Saints thanks for the Bentleys...I mean the memories. From my standpoint Fry has/is having an easy ride.Im not sure what could be done to make it harder for him though

lol

you have to laugh as it is comically saints.

what time did you post yours then trousers. May i say for the Swiss to be behind it they would have to have someone in it who lent the money for a deposit to the fall guys.

yep it is an absolute disaster and a right mess Gordon Brown is still running the country

Barcelona, Im not pointing at you as I can't recall your posts on the subject, but I do find it ironic that fans are up in arms about some of the things being said about TL and co, when the absolute appalling accusations that have been made about Mark Jackson.From where i sit it could be that they are both from the same pod.

he only appears when he has the bragging rights.