OldNick

I dont recall the name. I was only at Bellemoor for about a year and so the teachers names are a bit vague. I was well known as a Saints nut in my schooldays and if he were there no doubt I would have spoken to him.My elder brother was there from about 68-72 also a Saints fan. The black and white thing I understand, Im sure if I was on the more anti side Id be very cynical but his way at the moment seems the only sensible way forward.

MR G is NickG. As for the rest of the post you have lost me. Alpine my only friend?????? or me his??? I support RL in a lot of htis as I can see wht he is trying to do.MrW has seen sense and now seems to be in agreement that it is the correct way forward, he is a buinessman and is obviously not so stubborn not to accept he was wrong last time and now trying to resurrect the club with the plan. I would rather the club be strong financially but still use the youth and a mix of older players but still playing the way we are. OK it would be great to be like Man City and know you will be buying the best players in the world, but at the same time you watch all those 'Man City fans' come out of the woodwork rushing to buy s/ts all of a sudden.The fans who saw the bad days deserve all the success but just you wait for a couple of years and you will see their shirts on kids playing in the parks down here.Those clubs are devoid of soul and at present Im still proud as punch of being a Saints fan and know when Im at SMS the fans there are the lifeblood of our club and live and die Saints fans.

Thats the good thing about football different opinions. Hammil was not a threat against us in fact he was very poor his control was average his crossing too long and his shooting.....well

Again neither of us know the truth of the plan put forward.RL coming from financial circles probably realises if you try to pull wool over there heads they soon would lose faith in any of your other predictions.So I hope he has been realistic

yes you can factor a lot of that in. My experience of corpoates are though more of people going for a free day out who in the main would not be football fans first. Many are rugger or cricket men.

Some of that is true except you being right of course. In general I myself am much closer in thought to MR G

Wes s very good assessment I would say. As for bu## on seats we have had 2 home games 1 of 19k+ and 1 of 15k +. Which 1 would you suspect would be closer to the norm taking into account of match time and on tv, against a bigger club who brought a fair following but not a major one. In the summer we had lots of posts on here with fans predicting 14-20k attendances. A hard nosed banker who sees all the wild predictions from many businessmen take a view on the plan in front of them and can assess for themselves how far out the predictions are in their opinions. if the predictions ar fanciful they would immediately be suspicious of the whole plan. As I believe RL is a cautious type I would expect him to have used close to worst case scenario and then go from there.

HR is not even in the running for WHU according to Sky, has he counted himself out of the job?

He was over hyped when he joined us and overhyped in your assessment saturday IMO. He was poor saturday and he was deservedly dropped under GB. If he was a free transfer that would be too much

So banks didnt have a business plan placed in front of them? RL walks into the Northam branch of Barclays and says 'dont worry we will be alright.' and the teller replies 'thats ok, we'll put another couple of mill aside for you.' Tell us how YOU would have dealt with the present situation? Taking into account we had losses of 200/300k a week to deal with. You must also in your plan keep Rasiak and Saga because that is what you have banged on about. So go on Mr Financial brain actually come up with a valid arguement/business plan. I myself have this week contacted David Luker and asked why, as the corners are closed was that not used to have advertising on them especially where the cameras faced. It if implimented is something that will give the club more finance. He did reply and said they were looking to do so.It was my daughters idea BTW not mine, but may give the club another revenue stream.

I read in the Mail that even Man u are having to trawl around to sell executive boxes. They used to have a 2 year waiting list, now Man U are contacting companies who used to book tables as far back as 5 years ago. The corporates are tiring of the PL that is a stark warning for football as a whole. I assume that a lot of the prawn sandwich brigade, have now been there and done it and unless you love football the novelty of going to OT is fading.

CS i appreciate that, I have no issues with any Saints fans on here even though it may seem that way sometimes. Although there was one who posted he hoped that Euell would get a career threatening injury and so I cant accept that.

Id be amazed if he did. The club was in a corner, we dont know when interviewed what NP wished for or was prepared to do. Without spending a lot of money and reducing costs at the same time how could the club have moved forward or survived any differently than they are doing now. NP did an ok job. We got out of jail last day and Im thankful for that. I expect Leicesters running costs and wage bill are higher than ours at present. He has a team that should have been safe in the CCC and they blew it, it could so easily us or Coventry who went down. He has started well and good luck to him but perhaps he was judged not to be what we needed at this time. We would not have the luxury of loaning a Wright at present and his hands would be tied to use the youngsters.Nobody will ever know what would have happened if he has stayed.

BTF, underfunding is no excuse and is always the first thing these people hide behind. Health inspectors must have visited and any of us would see the dirty toilets next to the worksurfaces etc. The impression I get is that a lot of these people just go through the motions and dont do their job properly. A great friend works in the Vat office and I have often moaned at him about the un restistered traders, and he said look at it from the officers side.If given the choice would you choose to visit the soft law abiding business where you are offered a warm office and tea and coffee or go down a track to a farmbuilding to confront non vat registered panel beaters. I like 99% of people would take the soft option.I suggest that is the case with the health people.Go and visit the friendly easy to prosecute without having the race relations issue thrown up.

he isnt that stuopid as I note that the mirrors are all well below head height.

We have to try and forget NP.He did ok and will probably get Leicester promoted (sadly) as I like to see MM fail more than anything else.

Watched it tonight and I am astounded that the enviromental health people dont pick these things up. I think they should do surprise visits not pre arranged ones.

watching the newcastle fans singing at the ground, doesnt seem to be too many brain cells there.

I am surprised because if that is Westwoods place it is less weird than I thought. I expected a place more like the killers home in the Silence of the Lambs

I do agree he should have helped the police find the others.After all it was stated on here (i think) that at least 1 was on Dyers friends on facebook.Since removed no doubt. I was told there was a lot more cctv stuff and that was not shown on the Mirror piece.Whether that made it look less suspicious or more guilty is impossible to tell without seeing it. As you say the CPS thought it was worth going forward.

Thats ok , one mans meat an all that.

Again I wish all these things could be played out, but if that is the case you and I have supported many players who have broken the law, many of them heroes.We cannot pick and choose who we make examples of. Fernandes was done for drink driving and refusing to stop. To me that was a life threatening offence.Many of our players have been over the limit but have we campaigned against them?

Im sure you know what you are OSM

Oh do we have to wait that long? Thank god the ones of Hilary Clinton never surfaced

Thankyou MB.