JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 http://www.championshipmanager.co.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1088?PHPSESSID=55693dba475c8a66d7655f3cfecf1822 As it says on the Tin. Issue being though who plays CM anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdearlove Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 If you want to buy Championship Manager 2010 you can get it for as little as 1p(plus £2.50 transaction fee) until 10th Sept - http://www.champmanstore.com/shop/index?lang=en_gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 http://www.championshipmanager.co.uk...655f3cfecf1822 Well, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Ha beat you to it http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=15975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 um http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=15975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdearlove Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 so 1st and 3rd place for you then ;-) mine does have the link to the purchase page though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 http://www.champmanstore.com/shop/index?lang=en_gb Bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 That's not right, surely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 That's not right, surely.... It is. It's a brave strategy. One that will backfire and see them go under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Only available for a limited time and then full price. Having said that, £2.51 is indeed a bargain. Thank you Eidos, and Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 You know we now have 4 threads abotu this same topic (see computer games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 (edited) I'd play the demo first for free and see if its worth the 1p (it actually will cost you £2.51 as you have to pay adim charge of £2.50) http://cm10challenge.co.uk/ Shockingly bug riddled and the AI is fundamentally flawed as shown by this The Southampton data is very poor. Edited 18 August, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 The thing is though is CM any good? I remember CM4 was excelent but since then it's been FM all the way as CM does not support MAC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I'd play the demo first for free and see if its worth the 1p (it actually will cost you £2.51 as you have to pay adim charge of £2.50) http://cm10challenge.co.uk/ Shockingly bug riddled and the AI is fundamentally flawed as shown by this The Southampton data is very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I'd play the demo first for free and see if its worth the 1p (it actually will cost you £2.51 as you have to pay adim charge of £2.50) http://cm10challenge.co.uk/ Shockingly bug riddled and the AI is fundamentally flawed as shown by this The Southampton data is very poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Really ?? Awesome, so what do i do, downloaded when it is out ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 There is a forum for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 But it cost's 2.51, surely it is still worth it Sorry matt legod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrennan Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I'd play the demo first for free and see if its worth the 1p (it actually will cost you £2.51 as you have to pay adim charge of £2.50) http://cm10challenge.co.uk/ Shockingly bug riddled and the AI is fundamentally flawed as shown by this The Southampton data is very poor Nethertheless at £2.51 people will buy it. Oh and of course there has never been any bugs in any Football Manager demos you save them all for the final version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 The bigest issue is that since SI left (after Cm4) is it any good and it also only works on a PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 But it cost's 2.51, surely it is still worth it Sorry matt legod Just because it is cheap doesn't make it value for money. Play the demo that I linked to and decide yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I remember CM4 was excelent but since then it's been FM all the way as CM does not support MAC's That is because between 1992 to 2004 CM was made by SI THEN From 2004 onwards CM was made by BGS studios. From 2004 onwards SI used the game code from previous CM games and all its previous experience to make Football Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 That is because between 1992 to 2004 CM was made by SI THEN From 2004 onwards CM was made by BGS studios. From 2004 onwards SI used the game code from previous CM games and all its previous experience to make Football Manager. Yes we all know the story. So the questions is mister FM is SI going to be doing the same or are they going to cause as many issues as last year. (plus I would like to play the game without a CD on my Mac and no internet connection if you can sort that for me I'll be happy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Can i just say without trying to sound harsh it is slightly ironic that you say CM is bug ridden etc... FM09 is a complete bug fest and for about 80% of the people who bought it could not even get it to install right.....So think you should probably be quiet on that one mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Yes we all know the story. Alot of people still don't tbh So the questions is mister FM is SI going to be doing the same or are they going to cause as many issues as last year. No SI won't do the same and I can't see CM being around much longer after this as they are reducing income massively doing this Hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 (edited) Can i just say without trying to sound harsh it is slightly ironic that you say CM is bug ridden etc... FM09 is a complete bug fest and for about 80% of the people who bought it could not even get it to install right.....So think you should probably be quiet on that one mate Play the CM demo I linked to and judge for yourself. These are fundamental flaws to the game in CM not just small easily fixable bugs. Edited 18 August, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Play the CM demo I linked to and judge for yourself. These are fundamental flaws to the game in CM not just small easily fixable bugs. Again can i just say Football Manager 2009 was a complete a total bugfest. And in the games world/marketing world is now the blueprint of how not to release a game. Championship manager 10 will have more bugs then the australian outback. But that does not make FM better or any less buggy as you try to imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Its a good point (both are buggy) and the issues of installation was one reason I didn't upgrade to FM09. But as I say if SI can sort it out this year then I think they won't have much to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I can see why they went down the steam route (which was a major problem with FM) as it would enable them to deliver patches and updates much more seamlessly. Unfortunately it just caused confusion across the board. I have purchased CM10 and will see what it is like, i will also do this before buying FM10, FM was getting a little stale for me, and this cheap purchase gives me a chance to see if the new CM is any good. As much as the bugs, sorry MLG but as much as i am a massive FM fan it was super bug ridden and has never worked bug free first time, such as many games these days are. I think it is a good strategy from CM, yeah it could explode in their faces however it could get the word around and could make it a resounding success, not to mention the money they will save on packaging, transport etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I have purchased CM10 and will see what it is like, You could have played the CM demo to do that for free today. By buying it you won't find out until 11th Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Again can i just say Football Manager 2009 was a complete a total bugfest. And in the games world/marketing world is now the blueprint of how not to release a game. Championship manager 10 will have more bugs then the australian outback. But that does not make FM better or any less buggy as you try to imply. FM09 did have bugs I have never denied that at least they produce free patches. However Eidos/BGS have hinted they won't be producing patches. As I have said before there should be alot fewer bugs in FM10 due to changes in the QA systems now in place. Looking at the CM demo there are game breaking bugs so even for £2.51 it is a poor buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Shockingly bug riddled and the AI is fundamentally flawed The Southampton data is very poor. could almost be talking about FM09 when it was released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 could almost be talking about FM09 when it was released... It never had anything as bad as this. Shows the whole match engine is a mess and player AI is non existent. CM may well not be releasing patches beyond 11th September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 is that the final release? thats shocking. and a FM version did have something like that where you put all your players around the post apart from one on the edge, and near enough every time he would bang it in. Even with FM09 there is the challenge keeper corner in where your CB gets 20+ goals a season. Not sure what version to get this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 It never had anything as bad as this. Shows the whole match engine is a mess and player AI is non existent. CM may well not be releasing patches beyond 11th September. Don't know what the issue is at least a team of mine might score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 FM09 did have bugs I have never denied that at least they produce free patches. However Eidos/BGS have hinted they won't be producing patches. As I have said before there should be alot fewer bugs in FM10 due to changes in the QA systems now in place. Looking at the CM demo there are game breaking bugs so even for £2.51 it is a poor buy. 6 Patches will be released for CM10 if you read their page..... On a side note let me say a huge reason why Eidos have done this is simply because they know Football Management games no longer sell like they used to. They also know that CM sells probably not even half of what FM sells. They know that few people will spend £29.99 on buying Championship Manager 2010. So they will never gain ground on FM that way. What they are doing with this is more of a marketing tactic then anything else. What they are doing is letting people play the full game for next to nothing. £2.50 is nothing. In contrast to £29.99 for FM that is an 83% difference in price. A lot of people are unhappy with FM right now so will try anything else. This enables them to do so. A lot of people will play it and hate it. But a few people will play it and like it. Those people whould not have played it unless it was cheap. CM10 will probably be crap and that is a main point of why it will be cheap. In terms of reviews were probably looking at 60% or so. BUT the FM series itself is in a deep slump. Only last year it just scrapped into the 80% score. This year from people i know at the various games sites have said that they are again not happy with the series so to expect probably lower scores. So i can imagine FM10 getting scores around 75%. So for probably an additional 15% better score is it really woth paying an additonal 83% in price? As Matt said, is that value for money? Obviously no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 6 Patches will be released for CM10 if you read their page..... If you actually read it you will see these are 6 data updates NOT patches that fix bugs. Also you have to pay for these data updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 If you actually read it you will see these are 6 data updates NOT patches that fix bugs. Also you have to pay for these data updates. Are data updates not patches then? I'm pretty certain all games, especially PC games have patches that fix bugs. WHy would Eidos be any different? Have they all been fired or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 yeah but MLG is an agent for SI games so he will find something else to argue about seriously..I think the gap between the two games is closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 18 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Are data updates not patches then? I'm pretty certain all games, especially PC games have patches that fix bugs. WHy would Eidos be any different? Have they all been fired or something? They do say data updates and it will be either £5 to £6 a time. (I think you can take it as read that these will also include patches) now you to stop bickering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 (edited) Are data updates not patches then? I'm pretty certain all games, especially PC games have patches that fix bugs. WHy would Eidos be any different? Have they all been fired or something? Data updates are not patches. Data updates = Update the database player transfers etc and there will be 6 of these throughout the year Patches = fix bugs BGS/Eidos have said that after Sept 11th it is unlikely they will make any patches. Edited 18 August, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 maybe there isnt many bugs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 yeah but MLG is an agent for SI games so he will find something else to argue about seriously..I think the gap between the two games is closing. How can you say that when you haven't seen FM2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 They do say data updates and it will be either £5 to £6 a time. (I think you can take it as read that these will also include patches) fark that...guess thats where they hope to make the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 maybe there isnt many bugs.... Have you played the demo yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 How can you say that when you haven't seen FM2010? Im taking it from what both games have said is included in the new versions, as i have said before FM10 isnt much of an improvement on FM09 by what they have released so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Have you played the demo yet? demo meaning beta version? how much commision you on out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 demo meaning beta version? how much commision you on out of interest? It is a Beta version that is released 3 weeks before the game so pretty much exactly how it will be on the day of release. Development and QA in games development takes alot of time. As does manufacture and distribution of the game to the shops. So Eidos have little or no time to make changes before the release. I'm not on any commission. If I thought CM was the best game I would be a researcher and tester for them. However I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 after reading this it seems the beta will be different to the release and they know there is a few bugs in the match engine. http://board.fm09.de/lofiversion/index.php?t11516.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 doesnt even work on mac fm10 ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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