Bailey Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I, like many others, am struggling to care about England these days but I'm sure a win against Croatia would go some way to getting the fans back on side. Anyway, for those that DO care, what do you think the starting 11 will be? I'd imagine J.Cole will be recalled after his goals against Andorra, but can we expect any other changes? If it weren't such an important game, I'd be tempted to make some drastic changes and really raise some eyebrows. I'd go with the following . . . ---------------- Green --------------- Johnson -- Ferdinand -- Terry -- A.Cole Bentley --- Barry --- Bullard --- J.Cole ---------- Rooney --- Walcott --------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I'd have thought we'll mostly play for a draw, perhaps looking to nick one on the break. For that reason, I expect Walcott to retain his place on the right. Heskey will come in in place of Defoe as he's a good outlet to have when we're on the back foot (which will be most of the time, I suspect). Wes Brown has much better positional play than Glen Johnson, so he'll probably come in at right back. Lampard and Rooney, while clearly deserving of a place on the bench, won't be dropped. James Brown - Ferdinand - Terry - A Cole Walcott - Barry - Lumpoflard - J Cole Rooney - Heskey As for the idea of putting Robert Green in goal, remember what happened the last time we dropped the first choice keeper in favour of a promising younger player before a game against Croatia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I'd have thought we'll mostly play for a draw, perhaps looking to nick one on the break. For that reason, I expect Walcott to retain his place on the right. Heskey will come in in place of Defoe as he's a good outlet to have when we're on the back foot (which will be most of the time, I suspect). Wes Brown has much better positional play than Glen Johnson, so he'll probably come in at right back. Lampard and Rooney, while clearly deserving of a place on the bench, won't be dropped. James Brown - Ferdinand - Terry - A Cole Walcott - Barry - Lumpoflard - J Cole Rooney - Heskey As for the idea of putting Robert Green in goal, remember what happened the last time we dropped the first choice keeper in favour of a promising younger player before a game against Croatia? I would go with that..... however, I reckon he will start with becks on the right purely for his experience...I would love to see walcott play at any point though.. as for rooney, I reckon he could be on his last legs as an england starter should he have another bad game and the return of owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I'd go 4-5-1 & drop Rooney & put Heskey up top on his own but we know that won't happen. Anyway regardless this would be my team. James Brown - Rio (if fit) - Terry - A Cole Walcott - Bullard - Barry - Lampard - J Cole Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 James Brown - Terry - Rio - A Cole Bentley - Barry - Lumpard - Theo J Cole - Heskey Time for Wayne to watch a game or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabbageFace Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 My team ---------------- Overrated rubbish--------------- Overrated rubbish-- Overrated rubbish-- Overrated rubbish-- AOverrated rubbish Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--- J.Cole ---------- Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 My team ---------------- Overrated rubbish--------------- Overrated rubbish-- Overrated rubbish-- Overrated rubbish-- AOverrated rubbish Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--- J.Cole ---------- Overrated rubbish--- Overrated rubbish--------- Who are you putting on the subs bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 is Nicky Butt in the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 My squad would be: James, W Brown, Ferdinand, Terry, A Cole Beckham, Barry, Lampard, J Cole Heskey, DeFoe I thought about Beckham in the centre with Walcott on the right but I think we'd get overrun so maybe err on the side of caution. I'd like to drop Lampard too but that seemed to create problems elsewhere as Gerrard is out and i'm not sure about a suitable replacement. Rooney hasn't done anything particualrly good since Euro2004, hence I'd drop him. Then again, he's due a good game so maybe he'll rise to the occasion against Croatia. Probale Capello team: James Brown, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole Beckham, Barry, Lampard, J Cole Rooney Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 (edited) I'd have thought we'll mostly play for a draw, perhaps looking to nick one on the break. For that reason, I expect Walcott to retain his place on the right. Heskey will come in in place of Defoe as he's a good outlet to have when we're on the back foot (which will be most of the time, I suspect). Wes Brown has much better positional play than Glen Johnson, so he'll probably come in at right back. Lampard and Rooney, while clearly deserving of a place on the bench, won't be dropped. James Brown - Ferdinand - Terry - A Cole Walcott - Barry - Lumpoflard - J Cole Rooney - Heskey As for the idea of putting Robert Green in goal, remember what happened the last time we dropped the first choice keeper in favour of a promising younger player before a game against Croatia? Remember the last time you you didn't drop the first choice goallie for the match against Croatia? Anyway, my team would be: ---------James Brown Ferdinand Terry A.Cole Walcott Bullard Barry Bentley ---------J.Cole ---------Heskey Although maybe in preactise it might look more like this: -----------James----------- ---------------------------- Brown Ferdinand Terry A.Cole ----------------------------- --------Bullard Barry--------- Walcott----J.Cole-----Bentley -----------Heskey----------- Edited 8 September, 2008 by Saint Martini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Bentley on the left and Bullard in for Lampard... crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 James Johnson Rio Terry Cole Theo Barry Lampard Cole Rooney Heskey Downing and Defoe have never and will never be international class so i'd play Cole and Heskey instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Bentley on the left and Bullard in for Lampard... crazy Ok, maybe a bit overboard with playing Bullard ahead of Lampard but Bentley on the left will work just fine. Especially since it will create space for A.Cole to run into. No point in playing J.Cole on the left, he doesn't work well together with A.Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 You guys know more about this than I do so could someone please explain to me why A. Cole gets picked over Wayne Bridge. I think Bridge offers far more from the deep left. Am I being silly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I just don't think Bentley is good enough to play on the left, maybe Bentley on the right with Theo on the left. I think Capello with go with a Beckham, Lampard, Barry and Cole midfield though. I think we really need Theo there for his pace and Heskey upfront for his presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 You guys know more about this than I do so could someone please explain to me why A. Cole gets picked over Wayne Bridge. I think Bridge offers far more from the deep left. Am I being silly? Bridge isn't even playing Premier League football at the moment. If he'd left Chelsea and gone elsewhere, he'd have been first choice left-back for his new club and in with a much better shout of getting a game for England. Instead, he chose to sign a new 4-year contract on about £50k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I dont care as the same players will play when they dont deserve to. lampard will for who knows whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Is it only on Setanta again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Bridge isn't even playing Premier League football at the moment. If he'd left Chelsea and gone elsewhere, he'd have been first choice left-back for his new club and in with a much better shout of getting a game for England. Instead, he chose to sign a new 4-year contract on about £50k a week. Thanks Steve. I still think he'd be better for England AND for Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Thanks Steve. I still think he'd be better for England AND for Chelsea I dunno. He's good but Cole's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 does it matter the world is ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 I dont care as the same players will play when they dont deserve to. lampard will for who knows whatever reason. Because he's the best option? Jenas and Bullard are the only other real options at the moment and bringing either of those in is a ridiculous idea. Lampard is a bit of a broken man at this level but he's a class above the likes of Jenas and Bullard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Because he's the best option? Jenas and Bullard are the only other real options at the moment and bringing either of those in is a ridiculous idea. Lampard is a bit of a broken man at this level but he's a class above the likes of Jenas and Bullard. IMO I dont think he is. I'd go for a midfield of Walcott, Barry, Cole and Beckham. With Rooney playing off Heskey up front. I'm just dismayed that a lot of players dont seem to turn up for international matches. Whereas opposition teams want to play for their country. Carragher's comments in his book made me mad but sadly I feel more players take the same line as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 What about the Scottish player (Lee McCulloch?) who's said he won't ever play for Scotland again whilst Burley is in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 James Brown Terry Ferdinand Cole Beckham Barry Lampard Cole Rooney Heskey That will be the team. Is anyone going? Gutted I couldn't make it out there, but found out today i'm guarenteed a ticket for Germany away, so happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublesaint Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What about the Scottish player (Lee McCulloch?) who's said he won't ever play for Scotland again whilst Burley is in charge Then he is a knob of the highest order who should never be allowed to have the honour of playing for his country again just because he does not agree with/like the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublesaint Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Slaven Billic(sp?) has said England are too predicatable and do not particularly worry him, unsure as to whether he meant Englands probable team selection or style of play. Maybe if England changed from the usual suspects who are nearly always selected no matter what their form, they may do better in certain games. I think a draw away against Croatia would be a good result, followed by a victory against them at home which is not impossible to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Is anyone going? Went there last time, expecting more of the same (i.e. rubbish performance, defeat and trouble with local police/hit squad), hence not going this time around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Is it only on Setanta again? Yep. According to the Telegraph, Setanta are demanding £1m from any British broadcaster who wants to show highlights of the game. This comes after they blew £5m on buying the live rights to this one match. No wonder they've got financial problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 In one of the papers, they said the Ingerlund fans were singing "We hate Satanta" at the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 In one of the papers, they said the Ingerlund fans were singing "We hate Satanta" at the last game. Yep, and some sort of song praising the BBC, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 England have never qualified for a major competion finals with a Pompey player in the team/squad. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 I agree with Saint Martini. Playing Joe Cole on the left is madness because a) he doesn't work well with Cashley, and b) he's our only decent creative player and should play just off the striker(s), not be exiled to the wing. Having said that, I won't be watching as I'll be too busy playing with my willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Seriously, when did Rooney last play well for England?? Euro 2004 by my reckoning. Time for Fab to root out the players that are not interested, based on his performances you would have to say that Rooney is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What about the Scottish player (Lee McCulloch?) who's said he won't ever play for Scotland again whilst Burley is in charge Somehow think it's too late for him to play for England, even with a dodgy Granny. Who'd you drop to bring him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Somehow think it's too late for him to play for England, even with a dodgy Granny. Who'd you drop to bring him in? Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What I dont understand is why doesnt Capello just say balls to you im going with youth. Our team could be Hart Onuha Richards Taylor A cole Walcott Micheal Johnson Reo-Coker A young Ashton Agbonlahor In my opinion the obvious animosity between the fans and players is we are fed up with under achievment and they hate the pressure? A young,hungry team who wont be fazed or paralised by fear would have the complete backing from the public IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What I dont understand is why doesnt Capello just say balls to you im going with youth. Our team could be Hart Onuha Richards Taylor A cole Walcott Micheal Johnson Reo-Coker A young Ashton Agbonlahor In my opinion the obvious animosity between the fans and players is we are fed up with under achievment and they hate the pressure? A young,hungry team who wont be fazed or paralised by fear would have the complete backing from the public IMO Ah, the highly successful Southampton Football Club model. You don't actually want to qualify then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 England have never qualified for a major competion finals with a Pompey player in the team/squad. FACT. Like most things in football I imagine we achieved this before you jimmy dickinson 1950 and 1954 just for starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What I dont understand is why doesnt Capello just say balls to you im going with youth. Our team could be Hart Onuha Richards Taylor A cole Walcott Micheal Johnson Reo-Coker A young Ashton Agbonlahor In my opinion the obvious animosity between the fans and players is we are fed up with under achievment and they hate the pressure? A young,hungry team who wont be fazed or paralised by fear would have the complete backing from the public IMO oh gosh, that would be a car crash waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 11 September, 2008 Share Posted 11 September, 2008 oh gosh, that would be a car crash waiting to happen. Yeah im sure the mighty Kazaksthan would be rubbing their hands in glee at facing that team???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 11 September, 2008 Share Posted 11 September, 2008 That team would probably come away with a 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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