Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 (edited) The original plans were submitted in November 2009 and granted permission in February 2010. However the club has this month submitted plans for an even more extensive upgrade to the Staplewood training ground. Plans state they expect a decision early in 2011. New plans explained in detail with images of the design... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_21.pdf A few selected plans from the huge list available... New security lodge... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_11.pdf Landscaping plan... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_7.pdf Site master plan... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_5.pdf Link to all plans and documents... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/planningonline/acolnetcgi.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=173436 Looks very impressive! Well done Nicola Cortese and team! Will help attract players both at first team level and youngsters to the academy. A real sign of intent from the club of its long term aims and investment. Edited 6 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Did Marc jackson do the drawings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Hopefully this means we are not up for sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Lets wait till the plans are completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Lets wait till the plans are completed. No. Let's talk about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Isn't this sort of thing normally published in the Echo first....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 No. Let's talk about it now. I meant lets wait until it is completed (or started for that matter) before giving congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Hopefully this means we are not up for sale! Or, it could mean the opposite....i.e. it's easier to sell a 'property' that comes with planning permission for an 'extension' than one that doesn't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 I am just going to go ahead and assume the worse. In my mind this means that we are definately not moving in the right direction, it is all in Cortese's master plan to p*ss off each and everyone of us as fans. This will never happen ever, even though they have paid for the plans to be drawn up and submitted them, it all means nothing. F*ck him and F*ck this optimistic place, you should all see NC as the devil that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 I am just going to go ahead and assume the worse. In my mind this means that we are definately not moving in the right direction, it is all in Cortese's master plan to p*ss off each and everyone of us as fans. This will never happen ever, even though they have paid for the plans to be drawn up and submitted them, it all means nothing. F*ck him and F*ck this optimistic place, you should all see NC as the devil that he is. Has Deppo stolen Smirkings log in details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Has Deppo stolen Smirkings log in details? No i am just fed up, NC is clearly only doing this to raise our optimism and eventually drive us all to the brink of depression. Did you play anymore Skypoker in the end anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Again, not worth commenting on until work actually starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Again, not worth commenting on until work actually starts. Not worth commenting again on commenting on until work actually starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Not worth commenting again on commenting on until work actually starts. It's just that certain individuals decided to have a pop at posters assuming the worst when no one has actually done that so I felt there was value in reiterating my stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Those plans look brilliant. But that's it right now, it's only plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 It's just that certain individuals decided to have a pop at posters assuming the worst when no one has actually done that so I felt there was value in reiterating my stance. Thank you for explaining the reasoning behind commenting again. Perhaps your next post could be to explain the reasoning behind posting the reasoning behind again commenting on not worth commenting until the work actually starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Thank you for explaining the reasoning behind commenting again. Perhaps your next post could be to explain the reasoning behind posting the reasoning behind again commenting on not worth commenting until the work actually starts. No that sounds quite dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 No i am just fed up, NC is clearly only doing this to raise our optimism and eventually drive us all to the brink of depression. Did you play anymore Skypoker in the end anyway ? Nah, playing for money is a mugs game. Do you play for money a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Those plans look brilliant. But that's it right now, it's only plans. They are lacking a pet dinosaur and a log flume, but apart from that they're ok I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 They are lacking a pet dinosaur and a log flume, but apart from that they're ok I suppose. Don't forget the monkey/chicken petting zoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Don't forget the monkey/chicken petting zoo. Where's Trousers with his pic of that and of Barry. All we'll then need is Ted and it's a fullhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Nah, playing for money is a mugs game. Do you play for money a lot? Yeah i am on PKR and up, i have put about £40 on it and been playing for about a year or so. Taken a fair amount out of it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Yeah i am on PKR and up, i have put about £40 on it and been playing for about a year or so. Taken a fair amount out of it so far. I hate PKR. Full of foreigners. Sky bet is OK, but Betfair is the best. I have a set £11 p.w pay in limit. If I win I cash out, if I lose it's no big deal. You're doing well so keep doing what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Why on earth would we go to get Planning done from architects based in Manchester when there are plenty of practices with local site knowledge in the area...seems bonkers to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Why on earth would we go to get Planning done from architects based in Manchester when there are plenty of practices with local site knowledge in the area...seems bonkers to me! Rupert is based in Manchester now. Couple this with the Saints for sale story. 2 + 2 = 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2010 (edited) Why on earth would we go to get Planning done from architects based in Manchester when there are plenty of practices with local site knowledge in the area...seems bonkers to me! Why do they need to be local? Everything they need to know can be picked up very quickly. This architect firm has good, recent experience in training ground developments for Premier League clubs. They recently did a similar £5 million development for Stoke City, although Stoke's is smaller in size than the proposed Saints plan in terms of floor space. Edited 6 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Regardless....don;'t even think the scheme looks that impressive! Very run of the mill and an ugly as **** building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Why do they need to be local? Everything they need to know can be picked up very quickly. This architect firm has good, recent experience in training ground developments for Premier League clubs. They just did a similar £5 million development for Stoke City. because you have to get approval from a Local Planning Authority..who a local practice may already have ties and links with and know how they operate, who to contact...persuasive talking etc etc. Plus the amount of documents you need to submit which require a demonstration of how the scheme will affect the community, roads, traffic etc etc etc....local knowledge is really quite important for a scheme of this size...in an area like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2010 (edited) because you have to get approval from a Local Planning Authority..who a local practice may already have ties and links with and know how they operate, who to contact...persuasive talking etc etc. Plus the amount of documents you need to submit which require a demonstration of how the scheme will affect the community, roads, traffic etc etc etc....local knowledge is really quite important for a scheme of this size...in an area like this. They already had the initial plans approved in February 2010. Most of the groundwork has been done and dusted successfully already. Look on the New Forest council website and you will see all the surveys etc that have been done for both the successful Nov 2009 application and the extended Dec 2010 application. Edited 6 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 local knowledge is really quite important for a scheme of this size...in an area like this. I agree. This is Southamptons equivalent of the Olympic regeneration of the east end. Anyone would think it was just a few changing rooms and an astra turf pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 They already had the initial plans accepted in February 2010. Most of the groundwork has been done and dusted successfully already. Yup...produced and completed by a very capable practice in Ocean Village....who were completely arse raped by NC, 'so I have heard'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2010 Share Posted 6 December, 2010 Yup...produced and completed by a very capable practice in Ocean Village....who were completely arse raped by NC, 'so I have heard'. That, if true, isn't how you do business. That'd be like taking a pair of kittens from a breeder and not paying for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2010 (edited) Floor plans have been added on the 7th December to the development on the council's website. Only the ground floor plan, not the 1st floor. Ground floor of main building - http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_39.pdf Strangely there is a "ball signing room"! I like the big press conference room similar to what Arsenal have. Does look an awesome development. Upstairs will be the offices for the management/chairman/scouting, the players restaurant, players lounge and balcony overlooking the main pitch. Must be costing loads as it is designed by the same architects that did Stoke City's £7 million development, and Saints' is bigger and more extensive than that. Edited 8 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 If it all comes together, which i am sure it will then it really is a statement of intent. Hopefully this round of planning and consequent building work should all go through hitch free, i will let you know if there are any developments that i hear about. I mean, there is no way that a team who is not expecting to be in the premiership any time soon would spend such a massive amount on upgrading to top facilities. I am genuinely excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 I like the plans. This is my favourite ground as years ago I scored against Road Sea in the Cup but I would prefer not to tell you the score as it is still painful after all these years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 December, 2010 Share Posted 8 December, 2010 any idea why they changed their minds and decided to spend even more money on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2010 any idea why they changed their minds and decided to spend even more money on this? Point 5.10 of this document explains why... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_21.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 December, 2010 First floor plans of the main building now available on council website... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_41.pdf Previously they just had the ground floor. Ground floor of main building http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_39.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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