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Terrible one day performance in Aus, followed up by this humiliation. Giles has his interview next week for the top job...

 

To be fiar, the Dutch have been brilliant this tournament and in the qualifiers bar the SL game, it looked very much like they would beat SA as well.

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To be fiar, the Dutch have been brilliant this tournament and in the qualifiers bar the SL game, it looked very much like they would beat SA as well.

 

Yes agreed, I meant our general standard of play (all aspects of the game) throughout this tournament is a humiliation, not just losing to the Dutch

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The weird thing is that our batting in this tournament *****il today, obviously) has been very good, and that's usually been our downfall, especially on the subcontinent against teams packed with spinners. We haven't even bowled that badly, apart from Dernbach, it's our fielding that's let us down in every game. I don't think the Dutch dropped even a half-chance today.

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Mate who is out there working for SKY said the players didn't even look bothered today, and can't see how Giles can get the job.

 

in fact he's put some money on Vaughan at stupid odds!!!'

 

I really, really hope it's Vaughan. Giles is a f()cking turd... anyone could see us turning sh1t at cricket a mile off with his "leadership"

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Carbs expresses his views on Ashley Giles and man-management.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/mar/31/michael-carberry-england-ashes

There are a whole host of players who this applies to, stretching back the best part of a decade. The ECB has been allowed to treat people like absolute dirt because - until now - the team on the pitch has been winning regularly. Think back to how Matthew Hoggard was discarded after the tour to New Zealand, and players like Nick Compton, Samit Patel and James Taylor have been selected and then dropped seemingly without even being given the common courtesy of a phone call to explain the reasons.

 

Carberry and Patel would have done a good job in Bangladesh, IMO. Carberry would have improved the fielding immeasurably, while Patel's record on the subcontinent with both bat and ball is excellent. His fielding's largely crap, but can he be any worse than, say, James Tredwell?

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There are a whole host of players who this applies to, stretching back the best part of a decade. The ECB has been allowed to treat people like absolute dirt because - until now - the team on the pitch has been winning regularly. Think back to how Matthew Hoggard was discarded after the tour to New Zealand, and players like Nick Compton, Samit Patel and James Taylor have been selected and then dropped seemingly without even being given the common courtesy of a phone call to explain the reasons.

 

Carberry and Patel would have done a good job in Bangladesh, IMO. Carberry would have improved the fielding immeasurably, while Patel's record on the subcontinent with both bat and ball is excellent. His fielding's largely crap, but can he be any worse than, say, James Tredwell?

 

Anyone who keeps picking Dernbach and Bresnan needs shooting especially after Oz

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There are a whole host of players who this applies to, stretching back the best part of a decade. The ECB has been allowed to treat people like absolute dirt because - until now - the team on the pitch has been winning regularly. Think back to how Matthew Hoggard was discarded after the tour to New Zealand, and players like Nick Compton, Samit Patel and James Taylor have been selected and then dropped seemingly without even being given the common courtesy of a phone call to explain the reasons.

 

Carberry and Patel would have done a good job in Bangladesh, IMO. Carberry would have improved the fielding immeasurably, while Patel's record on the subcontinent with both bat and ball is excellent. His fielding's largely crap, but can he be any worse than, say, James Tredwell?

 

Totally agree, Steve.

 

And, with my Hampshire tinted glasses firmly in place, I’d add Dimi and Robin Smith to the list of players treated disdainfully or discarded too early by England, not to mention the poor way they treated Chris Tremlett when he was with Hampshire.

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