um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 What the fcckuk was lowe thinking of by opening the AGM by reading out an anonymous letter praising his record to date? Is he: a) Delusional and in need of help? b) Arrogant and supremely confident in his ability? c) Knew it would cause a stir and loves a fight? d) A N Other I'm torn between a) and c), but would be glad to know what others think. Re unite the Club my ar55re:rolleyes::rolleyes: (PS anyone up for donating to get a statue made) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Faz Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Think it is a, b, c, and d: d: He wants the fans to unite at the Reading game with a protest against his arrogance and incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 But don't you see, he is uniting the club. Every day his opposition is getting more and more apathetic/annoyed/dissillusioned. Soon they will simply wash their hands of the club and walk away, like many fans are already doing. Then, one day. When all opposition has walked away, and Rupert Lowe looks out of the window onto the pitch, where 6,000 fans watch the Blue Square Premier Clash with Rushden and Diamonds he will have united the club. He will have united it in his own image and can start building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 (edited) My friend Mr Lowe, is definitely a ringer for Tom Cruise and just as pretty. In that lovely picture of him with the letter in his hand from washsaint or was it Dibden Purlieu Saint or was it jonah my friendly computer mechanic, reading the financial times or was it good old ottery a true luvvie all the time. It is a good job Rupert did not go to Public School, he would have been eaten alive. Choosing an acting career was a good choice. Edited 23 December, 2008 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 My friend Mr Lowe, is definitely a ringer for Tom Cruise and just as pretty. In that lovely picture of him with the letter in his hand from washsaint or was it Dibden Purlieu Saint or was it jonah my friendly computer mechanic, reading the financial times or was it good old ottery a true luvvie all the time. It is a good job Rupert did not go to Public School, he would have been eaten alive. Choosing an acting career was a good choice. You sir, are without doubt the funniest poster on here. You may wind some people up, but i think its good to find some humour in such dark days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Ru**rt obviously needs our help if he is ever to get mentally healthy again. The fans should work towards sending him here: http://www.sabp.nhs.uk/services/adult/west/inpatient/laureate-ward-psychiatric-intensive-care-unit-abraham-cowley-unit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 I'm starting to think Lowe might actually have a mental health problem, he certainly fits the bill for megalomania, delusions of grandeur and the such like. this letter waving stuff is quite possibly straying into the clinical realm. sectioning might be the most likely route to his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 I'm starting to think Lowe might actually have a mental health problem, he certainly fits the bill for megalomania, delusions of grandeur and the such like. this letter waving stuff is quite possibly straying into the clinical realm. sectioning might be the most likely route to his departure. I wasn't kidding http://www.sabp.nhs.uk/services/adul...m-cowley-unit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Magnificent picture. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Its a letter from Chris Iwelemo that Rupert will probably quote in the interim Report and Accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2008 I'm starting to think Lowe might actually have a mental health problem, he certainly fits the bill for megalomania, delusions of grandeur and the such like. this letter waving stuff is quite possibly straying into the clinical realm. sectioning might be the most likely route to his departure. Being serious for a minute, I really do think Lowe may well have a mental health problem. I just can't see how you can reconcile the idea that he thinks he's coming back to unify the Club, as honourable as it may seem, with these petty actions that surely he (and others) must know will provoke anger, resentment and division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Being serious for a minute, I really do think Lowe may well have a mental health problem. I just can't see how you can reconcile the idea that he thinks he's coming back to unify the Club, as honourable as it may seem, with these petty actions that surely he (and others) must know will provoke anger, resentment and division. Having experience, I can assure you that Radliegh prepares a man for all-comers. Arrogance is third lesson on Mondays sandwiched between 'Addressing the bat-man' and 'Utilising Pa's Contacts in the City'... you think I'm kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Having experience, I can assure you that Radliegh prepares a man for all-comers. Arrogance is third lesson on Mondays sandwiched between 'Addressing the bat-man' and 'Utilising Pa's Contacts in the City'... you think I'm kidding... Do they still that dressing up in that strange leather gear that is hard to get out of...whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Being serious for a minute, I really do think Lowe may well have a mental health problem. I just can't see how you can reconcile the idea that he thinks he's coming back to unify the Club, as honourable as it may seem, with these petty actions that surely he (and others) must know will provoke anger, resentment and division. I think he was dreading it and decided when his body was taking the "flight or fight" decision to opt for fight. Wilde of course of went for flight, probably Flybe 752 or whatever to Jersey. I think he is not well though, I can't see him being there by the end of the season either way. The local media may well start to turn after today and I bet Martin Samuel will have some fun although I do think Samuel is a big a prat as Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Do they still that dressing up in that strange leather gear that is hard to get out of...whoops! Ask Max Mosley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Ask Max Mosley... Is he the new investment next Friday, I was told about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2008 The local media may well start to turn after today . Somehow I doubt it, because with the exception of Simon Carter, the rest have sold their soul to the devil in return for some "exclusives". Some people at The Echo should be ashamed at their patronising coverage of what is happening at our Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Somehow I doubt it, because with the exception of Simon Carter, the rest have sold their soul to the devil in return for some "exclusives". Some people at The Echo should be ashamed at their patronising coverage of what is happening at our Club. What is exclusive that's left to report is what I would like to ask the Echo? I have had run-ins with the Echo in the past and it's fair to say most 5 year olds write better articles than most of their journalists. I agree, I don't read the paper very often unless I'm around friends' places (family won't buy the rag) but I would hope it would take a critical but fair approach on its reporting of the club to reflect the interest of the city. Clearly this isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Deluded he may be, saviour he may not be, what is certain is he is trying to solve the mess that is Southampton. You may not agree with what he's doing, how he's doing it or why he's doing it - but he is doing it. That's my problem with the alternatives, all they do is moan about the positioning of photos in the boardroom, stand up and rant at AGM's or post vitriol on messageboards. Build it and they will come. Bring us an alternative (a real one, not an imagined Salz / Davis / ANO) and people will support them. Other than that it is just **** and wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Deluded he may be, saviour he may not be, what is certain is he is trying to solve the mess that is Southampton. You may not agree with what he's doing, how he's doing it or why he's doing it - but he is doing it. That's my problem with the alternatives, all they do is moan about the positioning of photos in the boardroom, stand up and rant at AGM's or post vitriol on messageboards. Build it and they will come. Bring us an alternative (a real one, not an imagined Salz / Davis / ANO) and people will support them. Other than that it is just **** and wind. Before I pi455 myself I would appreciate it if you could clarify the bit in bold. Do you really think he is solving the problem?? As for the alternative, well forgive me if I'm slightly unsure about where to go next, because I'm still mightily ****4ed off that Lowe actually back and ripped up what was beginning to have the look of potential about it (i.e. Pearson and co.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Being serious for a minute, I really do think Lowe may well have a mental health problem. I just can't see how you can reconcile the idea that he thinks he's coming back to unify the Club, as honourable as it may seem, with these petty actions that surely he (and others) must know will provoke anger, resentment and division. I agree, it doesn't make any sane sense. My family has a few with mental health problems and i can see so much of them in Lowe. like reading the letter, i can't think of a sane reason to read out the letter. it's not a well thought out strategy, it's clearly delusional to think that a random letter confirms to all that everything he's doing is right. I think Lowe is self-obsessed and sinking deeper into some kind of fantasyworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 i couldnt believe he did that, i mean seriously how dumb do you have to be to read out a letter basically praising his self written by himself to a crowd who want him to **** off? I simply do not have the intelligence to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Somehow I doubt it, because with the exception of Simon Carter, the rest have sold their soul to the devil in return for some "exclusives". Some people at The Echo should be ashamed at their patronising coverage of what is happening at our Club. Please tell me you are joking regarding the first paragraph. Who do you think sets the tone for the Echo's sports coverage? You can't hail him on the one hand for being a beacon of journalistic morals and standards, and then berate the paper's coverage under his stewardship as patronising. He uses some of the oldest journalistic tricks in the book to give the impression that the paper is a strident voice of protest. What you do, is use a fan with a gripe to write a lengthy letter which you publish. When the club moan and complain you say: "We didn't write it, it's what the fans are saying." It's an act of journalistic ventriloquism, putting your words into somebody else's mouth in the hope nobody will see your lips moving. His only get-out is that he doesn't dictate the paper's sports coverage. For that you have to look higher, even higher than the editor, Ian Murray. I'm not sure even Simon 'Pulitzer Prize' Carter is prepared to strap on a pair and risk his job by kicking against the dictats of his employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Please tell me you are joking regarding the first paragraph. Who do you think sets the tone for the Echo's sports coverage? You can't hail him on the one hand for being a beacon of journalistic morals and standards, and then berate the paper's coverage under his stewardship as patronising. He uses some of the oldest journalistic tricks in the book to give the impression that the paper is a strident voice of protest. What you do, is use a fan with a gripe to write a lengthy letter which you publish. When the club moan and complain you say: "We didn't write it, it's what the fans are saying." It's an act of journalistic ventriloquism, putting your words into somebody else's mouth in the hope nobody will see your lips moving. His only get-out is that he doesn't dictate the paper's sports coverage. For that you have to look higher, even higher than the editor, Ian Murray. I'm not sure even Simon 'Pulitzer Prize' Carter is prepared to strap on a pair and risk his job by kicking against the dictats of his employer. You do indeed have to go higher than Carter and start asking those individuals as to why they have got into bed with the Club. IMHO, there can be no doubt that those at the typewriter are working within the confines of what others have told them. The closest we have got to any criticism of the current regime is Carter's piece suggesting the Dutch experiment isn't working, which was at least an attempt to tell it like it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Before I pi455 myself I would appreciate it if you could clarify the bit in bold. Do you really think he is solving the problem?? As for the alternative, well forgive me if I'm slightly unsure about where to go next, because I'm still mightily ****4ed off that Lowe actually back and ripped up what was beginning to have the look of potential about it (i.e. Pearson and co.). The poster said Lowe is TRYING to sort the mess, not that Lowe IS sorting it. You clearly rate Pearson (I'm thinking of your reply to me on that other thread that I couldn't reply to as I'm to lazy to sign up properly) but do you really think that Crouch staying (and as a result NP too) would have led to us keeping some of the so called high earners that left or were shipped out in the summer? To me it seems to be boiling down to Crouch's view that we could have kept NP and sustained paying "high" wages to some of our players from last season, or Lowe's view that we had to cut the outgoing as much as possible and work within that. From the little I know, I lean towards the latter. Do you have any evidence / knowledge to back up what Crouch seems to be suggesting - that we have more financial leeway than Lowe says, or is it just a feeling? Genuine question and interested in your answer, Um P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 Monty Python: Rupert Lowe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 (edited) It seems crystal clear to me that Lowe genuinely believes that he is the right man to be running this club, and that his way is the only way. Nothing that he has said or done over the past three years and more has done anything to dissuade me from that point of view. I've used the phrase before, I know, but messiah complex is the only term I can think of that fits the bill. If you accept this, then everything else falls into place. Anything that works is down to Lowe's brilliant and visionary stewardship of the club; anything that fails is the fault of somebody else; the rest of the board, the manager, the players, the supporters... The level of wrath he has often displayed when challenged is another indication. So my vote goes for (a), though clearly (b) applies as a result of (a). Has the chairman of any other football club quoted a journeyman Championship striker in support of his chosen course - and this not in reference to football matters, but in his statement which accompanied the annual accounts? After that, anything else would seem positively sane and balanced. Edited 23 December, 2008 by Fowllyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2008 You clearly rate Pearson (I'm thinking of your reply to me on that other thread that I couldn't reply to as I'm to lazy to sign up properly) but do you really think that Crouch staying (and as a result NP too) would have led to us keeping some of the so called high earners that left or were shipped out in the summer? I wouldn't say I rate Pearson in the manner you suggest, more that I saw enough on him at the back end of last season to give him a longer stint at the helm. He had managed to instill some pride and passion in the team and many supporters were ready to unite behind him. He was the one person I felt could provide any semblence of a galvanising spirit. Pearson was up front about the fact we would be losing the big earners and that the youngsters would play a more prominent role. Therefore I don't see that there would have been a hige difference from that point of view, but I do believe Pearson would have gone for more of a mix of youth and experience. There would also have been different transfer targets, loan signings, tactics, formation, strategies etc etc etc. To me it seems to be boiling down to Crouch's view that we could have kept NP and sustained paying "high" wages to some of our players from last season, or Lowe's view that we had to cut the outgoing as much as possible and work within that. From the little I know, I lean towards the latter. IMHO Crouch was not stupid enough to realise that he could just plough on regardless. He had agreed a strategy that the Bank supported, which IMHO would have had to have meant cutbacks. What these would have been, what the priorities would be, I have no idea. Of course, attendances would have played a part and although I have no way of proving it, I do think they would have held up better under Pearson and Crouch. Do you have any evidence / knowledge to back up what Crouch seems to be suggesting - that we have more financial leeway than Lowe says, or is it just a feeling? Genuine question and interested in your answer, Um P. Not really, and I don't think Crouch has suggested that (unless I have missed something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 23 December, 2008 Share Posted 23 December, 2008 He really does seem to be living in his own personal cloud cuckoo land and totally out of touch with reality. As for the statue he'll probably have one made himself.....and then expect the fans to cough up for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I wouldn't say I rate Pearson in the manner you suggest, more that I saw enough on him at the back end of last season to give him a longer stint at the helm. He had managed to instill some pride and passion in the team and many supporters were ready to unite behind him. He was the one person I felt could provide any semblence of a galvanising spirit. Pearson was up front about the fact we would be losing the big earners and that the youngsters would play a more prominent role. Therefore I don't see that there would have been a hige difference from that point of view, but I do believe Pearson would have gone for more of a mix of youth and experience. There would also have been different transfer targets, loan signings, tactics, formation, strategies etc etc etc. IMHO Crouch was not stupid enough to realise that he could just plough on regardless. He had agreed a strategy that the Bank supported, which IMHO would have had to have meant cutbacks. What these would have been, what the priorities would be, I have no idea. Of course, attendances would have played a part and although I have no way of proving it, I do think they would have held up better under Pearson and Crouch. Not really, and I don't think Crouch has suggested that (unless I have missed something). Cheers for the reply, Um. The impression that I got, mainly from the Crouch "interview" on Radio Hampshire a couple of weeks back was that there finances were no way as tight as was being made out by the incumbent board, which led me to wonder as to what the facts really are. I hear what you say about Pearson and the mix of youth and experience and I think we'd agree that the biggest weakness with the team is that lack of balance. I saw the signings of Perry and Wotton as attempts to address this. Which is why I wonder about finances as I want to know how much that lack of balance (sorry, focus on youth), comes from simple lack of resources and how much comes from a dogmatic belief that we don't need to make signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Please tell me you are joking regarding the first paragraph. Who do you think sets the tone for the Echo's sports coverage? You can't hail him on the one hand for being a beacon of journalistic morals and standards, and then berate the paper's coverage under his stewardship as patronising. He uses some of the oldest journalistic tricks in the book to give the impression that the paper is a strident voice of protest. What you do, is use a fan with a gripe to write a lengthy letter which you publish. When the club moan and complain you say: "We didn't write it, it's what the fans are saying." It's an act of journalistic ventriloquism, putting your words into somebody else's mouth in the hope nobody will see your lips moving. His only get-out is that he doesn't dictate the paper's sports coverage. For that you have to look higher, even higher than the editor, Ian Murray. I'm not sure even Simon 'Pulitzer Prize' Carter is prepared to strap on a pair and risk his job by kicking against the dictats of his employer. Wise and true words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Rupes new PR man ...appointed today apperantly Promotion is nearly here, we will win this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Deluded he may be, saviour he may not be, what is certain is he is trying to solve the mess that is Southampton. You may not agree with what he's doing, how he's doing it or why he's doing it - but he is doing it. That's my problem with the alternatives, all they do is moan about the positioning of photos in the boardroom, stand up and rant at AGM's or post vitriol on messageboards. Build it and they will come. Bring us an alternative (a real one, not an imagined Salz / Davis / ANO) and people will support them. Other than that it is just **** and wind. For goodness sake you might be able to defend Captain Six percent if he was behaving with some humility and understood the need to reach out to the fans. What rational person would read out an anonymous letter to an AGM which heaps praise upon themsleves What rational person knowing that he has little support would publish the voting figures on the clubs website after such an acrimonious AGM. Does he reallythink he has 94% support Whatever ability he might bring to the job the negative impact of his prescence completely outweighs it If he had the real intersts of the club at heart he wouldnt be paying himself and he would be working quietly in the background. He has lost for the second time he will go down in the histroy of this club as a joke A two time loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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