What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Gloucester Saint]

40 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Tom Cruise gets paid more than Sue Pollard, they’re both actors, when will the unfairness end?

Don’t know how much this chap earns as a glazier in his day job but have you seen this bus around Harrogate at the weekends?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnyzjjk15o

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Tom Cruise gets paid more than Sue Pollard, they’re both actors, when will the unfairness end?

Surely, it's up to Tom Cruise to do more panto, if he wants to earn the big bucks?

[hypochondriac]

16 hours ago, egg said:

Nonsense. These headline seeking articles compare apples with kebabs. A female teacher earns the same as a bloke, ditto copper, civil servant, etc. Sure, more women work in lesser roles in schools as they want the holidays off, but for there to be a genuine pay gap, they'd have to be earning less than a bloke for the same job, which they aren't. 

As always when this stupid argument is brought up by people who hsould know better, if it was miles cheaper to employ women then all employers would be doing it as a quick way to get their costs down. It isn't of course because like you say, it's not actually.Comparing the same jobs against each other, not accounting for hours worked.

[Gloucester Saint]

Can see this might cause a few rants https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20jpvd300do

[swannymere]

On 08/02/2026 at 08:22, Farmer Saint said:

Interesting piece about London, and the rights attempt to create fear about it's safety.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUcwBj_in9Y/?igsh=dXVwZGFzMGc0czlt

The Times did a similar article late last year, bit surprised an article like that from the Times considering their political leanings. Most of it comes from people with an axe to grind with Labour.(not a Labour voter but i'm not blind to the good and bad things they do, it's a mix)

[hypochondriac]

3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Can see this might cause a few rants https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20jpvd300do

Not sure why. It's purely a health and safety thing surely and doesn't really change things much. I played football in the evening once in the middle of summer with a bloke who hadnt eaten or drunk anything all day. I thought he was mental.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure why. It's purely a health and safety thing surely and doesn't really change things much. I played football in the evening once in the middle of summer with a bloke who hadnt eaten or drunk anything all day. I thought he was mental.

Because professional sportspeople can get an exemption from Ramadan, they just need permission from their local head Imam.  Shouldn't be that difficult to get a permission slip...

There should be no need for a Ramadan break or for the sportspeople to put themselves at any risk.

Edited 6 hours ago by Weston Super Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Because professional sportspeople can get an exemption from Ramadan, they just need permission from their local head Imam.  Shouldn't be that difficult to get a permission slip...

There should be no need for a Ramadan break.

"Did you observe Ramadan?"

"No. I had a permission slip."

Bit lame. 🙂

There are already stops for other things, such as temperature or fake injuries. So, it's not setting any precedent.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

"Did you observe Ramadan?"

"No. I had a permission slip."

Bit lame. 🙂

There are already stops for other things, such as temperature or fake injuries. So, it's not setting any precedent.

High temperatures affect all players, not just some and except for postponing the match, can't really be solved.

Did they stop the match so that Jason Puncheon could take a dump?

 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure why. It's purely a health and safety thing surely and doesn't really change things much. I played football in the evening once in the middle of summer with a bloke who hadnt eaten or drunk anything all day. I thought he was mental.

Nonsense showboating. Something for SOG to applaud though 

[Gloucester Saint]

10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

High temperatures affect all players, not just some and except for postponing the match, can't really be solved.

Did they stop the match so that Jason Puncheon could take a dump?

 

The whole stadium could’ve joined in with the song then. Put a message up on the large screens.

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, whelk said:

Nonsense showboating. Something for SOG to applaud though 

Cometh the hour, cometh the Whelk 🙂

[hypochondriac]

22 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Because professional sportspeople can get an exemption from Ramadan, they just need permission from their local head Imam.  Shouldn't be that difficult to get a permission slip...

There should be no need for a Ramadan break or for the sportspeople to put themselves at any risk.

I'll be honest I don't know loads about it. All a bit silly really but if they're in a position where they haven't eaten or drunk anything then I can see why they want a break so they can.

Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Holmes_and_Watson]

12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

High temperatures affect all players, not just some and except for postponing the match, can't really be solved.

Did they stop the match so that Jason Puncheon could take a dump?

 

And sport is the poorer for it. 🙂

[AlexLaw76]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I'll be honest I don't know loads about it. All a bit silly really but if they're in a position where they haven't eaten or drunk anything then I can see why they want a break so they can.

They are in that position by choice....

[hypochondriac]

22 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

They are in that position by choice....

To some degree but it's not like they just randomly decided to do it. They obviously feel compelled to do so due to their religion.

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure why. It's purely a health and safety thing surely and doesn't really change things much. I played football in the evening once in the middle of summer with a bloke who hadnt eaten or drunk anything all day. I thought he was mental.

By contrast I used to play football with a load of blokes who’d been drinking everything they can all night, they were also mental 

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Because professional sportspeople can get an exemption from Ramadan, they just need permission from their local head Imam.  Shouldn't be that difficult to get a permission slip...

There should be no need for a Ramadan break or for the sportspeople to put themselves at any risk.

So religious rules don’t need to be stuck to if you’re a professional sportsman. Not really putting god first is it

[AlexLaw76]

8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

To some degree but it's not like they just randomly decided to do it. They obviously feel compelled to do so due to their religion.

They don't have to. That is the beauty of living in a free society.

[AlexLaw76]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

So religious rules don’t need to be stuck to if you’re a professional sportsman. Not really putting god first is it

Religious rules (Ramadan) can take a back seat in many instances (when it suits)....but when it does not suit, holy shit

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

They don't have to. That is the beauty of living in a free society.

I just don't see the big deal with a small break in play to allow people to eat and drink something because they haven't done so due to their religion. I don't even really agree with the or the silly rules of the religion but it's obviously going to affect a fair amount of them so from a health and safety point of view it seems like a sensible thing to do to minimise further risk. It's not like they are postponing the game. In an ideal world no one would do it but we don't live on an ideal world.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I just don't see the big deal with a small break in play to allow people to eat and drink something because they haven't done so due to their religion. I don't even really agree with the or the silly rules of the religion but it's obviously going to affect a fair amount of them so from a health and safety point of view it seems like a sensible thing to do to minimise further risk. It's not like they are postponing the game. In an ideal world no one would do it but we don't live on an ideal world.

personally, I think when the game starts it should be the game, secular, the religion is football and that is that. 

If people choose to fast, then good luck to them. If a non-muslim player would like the game to stop so he can stuff Jaffa cakes down (on a bit of a crash diet), then he/she would be rightly derided.

 

[whelk]

I just hope when they have the break they put pictures of Mohammed on the screen to make everyone aware. Failing that maybe depict him in a drawing or cartoon

[whelk]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I just don't see the big deal with a small break in play to allow people to eat and drink something because they haven't done so due to their religion. I don't even really agree with the or the silly rules of the religion but it's obviously going to affect a fair amount of them so from a health and safety point of view it seems like a sensible thing to do to minimise further risk. It's not like they are postponing the game. In an ideal world no one would do it but we don't live on an ideal world.

Bloody liberal!

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

personally, I think when the game starts it should be the game, secular, the religion is football and that is that. 

If people choose to fast, then good luck to them. If a non-muslim player would like the game to stop so he can stuff Jaffa cakes down (on a bit of a crash diet), then he/she would be rightly derided.

 

You can consider the game secular, not be a fan of Islam and still not object to a short break in play.

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Bloody liberal!

Might as well stick a bloody prayer mat facing mecca in the centre circle while we're at it.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Might as well stick a bloody prayer mat facing mecca in the centre circle while we're at it.

I wonder which football club will support the banning of certain products at the ground during Ramadan?

 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I wonder which football club will support the banning of certain products at the ground during Ramadan?

 

We will and Brighton for sure. I wouldn’t be at surprised if some clubs refused to serve any food or drinks at all if the match was during the day so as not to cause offence

Edited 3 hours ago by Turkish

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We will and Brighton for sure. I wouldn’t be at surprised if some clubs refused to serve any food or drinks at all if the match was during the day so as not to cause offence

Certain food items will be first (quietly), less hassle than booze. 

[Weston Super Saint]

50 minutes ago, Turkish said:

So religious rules don’t need to be stuck to if you’re a professional sportsman. Not really putting god first is it

You'll have to take that up with Allah... 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

High temperatures affect all players, not just some and except for postponing the match, can't really be solved.

Did they stop the match so that Jason Puncheon could take a dump?

 

 

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Religious rules (Ramadan) can take a back seat in many instances (when it suits)....but when it does not suit, holy shit

I had no idea Puncheon was that important. 🙂