Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 (edited) Crouch’s offer also came with the condition that Jan Poortvliet was sacked and replaced by an English manager. Basing managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability and limiting the applicant field to just English managers is not a good thing. Do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a Welsh, Scotsman or N. Irishman not do Leon? They are all British(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be English only? Give Mark Wotte a chance. Not because he is Dutch, not because he is not English. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. If your boss sacked you and said he would only apoint the best available English candidate and turned down Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates and interviewed 10 English applicants would that be fair? Why should we accept this from football clubs when we wouldn't in life? Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates can have experience of managing in the Championship Edited 27 January, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a Welsh, Scotsman or N. Irishman not do Leon? They are all British(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be English only? Give Mark Wotte a chance. Not because he is Dutch, not because he is not English. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. Are you being serious. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 It is about time especiallyn in these difficult times that we started looking after our own. That is not in any way a racist attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Are you being serious. Really. I am yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 No, Just no.. Bite that lip SB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Good on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I am yes. The man is an idiot who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the controls of our club again if he makes statement like this. Idiot alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Lizzard Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 No he isn't, and if you are worried about that please bear in mind that Rupert has stated in the past that this is an Anglo Saxon country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 When Crouch says English he means someone who understands the lower English leagues and with experience of what is required to do well in the CCC. Nine times out of ten that is a British person or at least someone who has had experience of playing/managing in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Well, I don't know if it's racist, but you certainly wouldn't be able to make that sort of distinction of nationality in any other industry. Even the military or intelligence departments only specify British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I am yes. In that case I suggest you try http://www.getalife.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a Welsh, Scotsman or N. Irishman not do Leon? They are all British(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be English only? Give Mark Wotte a chance. Not because he is Dutch, not because he is not English. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Basing managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability and limiting the applicant field to just English managers is not a good thing . How can you not agree with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a Welsh, Scotsman or N. Irishman not do Leon? They are all British(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be English only? Give Mark Wotte a chance. Not because he is Dutch, not because he is not English. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. I agree with your sentiments but I think Crouch is saying English because the English play 4 4 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with championship or english lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a welsh, scotsman or n. Irishman not do leon? They are all british(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be english only? Give mark wotte a chance. Not because he is dutch, not because he is not english. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. oh for the love of god fukk off with this **** thread pleeeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Basing managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability and limiting the applicant field to just English managers is not a good thing . How can you not agree with that? Please see my post. Are you 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 may be he should have said British.........Racist?? get a grip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Is Leon Crouch racist? The Daily Echo "suggests" he is. I have seen it all now, not Im no racist and do not see Leons comments as racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalshotSpit Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I am yes. A man that brought Nigel Pearson to the club is not an idiot. Leicester are now nine points clear at the top of league one under him. One of the reasons we are where we are in the league is because Lowe brought in a fall guy who had no experience of English football at all, a Dutchman. If it had been Jol, it may have been different, so it's not a case of nationality, just experience - and most of those experienced and available are English. Dowie, Boothroyd, Holloway to name three. You are the idiot, with your pathetic politically correct brainwash, get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Please see my post. Are you 12? In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Next you'll be calling white bread racist because the slice is white! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. i am English, just like Jocks are Scottish , Taffs Welsh and Paddys Irish. Ask a Swansea fan on Saturday if they are Welsh or British ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. If he was racist then he wouldnt have bought other nationality players.. get it. How the hell is that racist! makes me laugh how some people just think everythings racist in it's own way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Those that are disagreeing with me. If your boss sacked you and said he would only apoint the best available English candidate and turned down Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates and interviewed 10 English applicants would that be fair? Some of you clearly haven't a clue. Why should we accept this from football clubs when we wouldn't in life? Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates can have experience of managing in the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. So is there a direct quote from Crouch? Or is it just the reporter's interpretation? So he could quite easily have meant what I said couldnt he (that is clearly what he meant.) Oh and English is a nationality. Sigh can't believe I'm even bothering to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. You are deffo on a wind-up! Why don't you go and watch the British national football team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Those that are disagreeing with me. If your boss sacked you and said he would only apoint the best available English candidate and turned down Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates and interviewed 10 English applicants would that be fair? Some of you clearly haven't a clue. Why should we accept this from football clubs when we wouldn't in life? Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates can have experience of managing in the Championship What the REPORTER probably meant to say was replaced with an English manager (meaning the English manager that he had already picked out.) That simple enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either. Well, there's a strange statement. The Race Relations Act 1976 s1(1) (1)A person discriminates against another in any circumstances relevant for the purposes of any provision of this Act if— (a)on racial grounds he treats that other less favourably than he treats or would treat other persons; or (b)he applies to that other a requirement or condition which he applies or would apply equally to persons not of the same racial group as that other but— (i)which is such that the proportion of persons of the same racial group as that other who can comply with it is considerably smaller than the proportion of persons not of that racial group who can comply with it; and (ii)which he cannot show to be justifiable irrespective of the colour, race, nationality or ethnic or national origins of the person to whom it is applied; and (iii)which is to the detriment of that other because he cannot comply with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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