chuz Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Apologies for using the forum for this but can someone confirm the name of Saints' Bank Manager and the branch of Barclays that is handling the overdraft? I know I have seen it here before but I want to be absolutely sure my letter gets to the right person. I am going to write to him today telling him that, if Lowe and Wilde are here next season I will definitely not renew my season tickets. However if Lowe and Wilde are gone I will definitely renew, whatever league we are in. I am tired of looking on and doing nothing. It is time for action and even if it is only my £1000 next year, that is something. I am not asking anyone to join me - it is up to each individual what they do but this is something I can do (along with marching) to make my point. I realise loads of people will say "but who would you have instead/it wont make any difference/part time fan etc etc etc". Fair enough, criticise at will. I do not have all the answers but enough is enough. I want to do something now. If the moderators prefer to lock/delete this one once I have the name fair enough and sorry for using the forum to get one single piece of information but I know someone on here knows and I want to do this now, today, before I get onto other things. For me the time for doing nothing is well past and shame on me for leaving it this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 (edited) ... Edited 4 February, 2009 by trousers second thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 FFS, grow up! LOL! For a start we are a plc and not member of the public who has their account with a branch managed by nice Mr Mainwaring.... Our account is looked after by their corporate team which is based in Reading (not in the Reading Barclays bank!) I wouldn't bother wasting your keystrokes tbh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 FFS, grow up! LOL! For a start we are a plc and not member of the public who has their account with a branch managed by nice Mr Mainwaring.... Our account is looked after by their corporate team which is based in Reading (not in the Reading Barclays bank!) I wouldn't bother wasting your keystrokes tbh..... The more pressure that people put on the better, I don't care how silly you may think it is, we attack from all quarters...tally ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The more pressure that people put on the better, I don't care how silly you may think it is, we attack from all quarters...tally hoIn a time when people in finance have lost their nerve the last thing we need is them to start taking our credit away.You are dealing with peoples livlihoods here FFS. If administration comes all the poor 'little people' at the club dont get paid and are the ones who really get hurt.Go for RL etc by all means but think about the people who will be really hurt if a protest like this makes people wiht no connection to our club decide to lose their nerve and pull the plug. March and do whatever else that is legasl but dont risk messing with those who are just day to day employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/media/?page_id=8878 think all info will be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The only people who can remove Lowe are the shareholders. All Barclays can do is put us into liquidation and so risk becoming a creditor with little pay back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/media/?page_id=8878 think all info will be here. Wonder how long it will take Lowe to get that page removed from the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 barclays will be reluctant to do anything,because of their sponsorship of the prem they cannot be seen to be destroying a club because of a relatively small debt compared to others. i admire your spirit but i think you should channel it into other ways of bringing about change........i dont know what that is but somebody better work something out soon or we will be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuz Posted 4 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/media/?page_id=8878 think all info will be here. Thanks Lady Saint. The letter is done.. The only people who can remove Lowe are the shareholders. All Barclays can do is put us into liquidation and so risk becoming a creditor with little pay back. Not sure I agree with this. If they think their interest is better served by an alternative management team, they will not hesitate to act and put pressure on. It would certainly not be the first time a bank had influenced a change in management at a PLC. Far from it. It would come as a resignation "in the interests of unity" or something. Anyway, I have done what I felt I wanted to do, which was tell the bank I fear that all the cost cutting exercises will be irrelevant if income falls massively as I believe it will come season ticket renewal. They do not have to believe me and I could be wrong, but I have at least told them that with a change of Board I will spend at least £2000 with the club next year regardless of which league we are in (£1000 season tickets and £1000 min on corporate hospitality). With no change I will not spend any money. If there were 1000 people who were in the same position, that equates to £2 million in revenue, more than a 13% cut on the basis of the last audited accounts. My biggest concern is that the policies that have been adopted by the board, namely playing inexperienced players and appointing inexperienced coaches is leading to a massive fall in revenue, both now and especially next year with (I suspect) a significant fall in season ticket holders. This, more than anything else, threatens the club's future. Of course I cannot prove this but I can state my position to the Bank and ask them to note my concerns. I will now go back to lurking on this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Thanks Lady Saint. The letter is done.. Not sure I agree with this. If they think their interest is better served by an alternative management team, they will not hesitate to act and put pressure on. It would certainly not be the first time a bank had influenced a change in management at a PLC. Far from it. It would come as a resignation "in the interests of unity" or something. Anyway, I have done what I felt I wanted to do, which was tell the bank I fear that all the cost cutting exercises will be irrelevant if income falls massively as I believe it will come season ticket renewal. They do not have to believe me and I could be wrong, but I have at least told them that with a change of Board I will spend at least £2000 with the club next year regardless of which league we are in (£1000 season tickets and £1000 min on corporate hospitality). With no change I will not spend any money. If there were 1000 people who were in the same position, that equates to £2 million in revenue, more than a 13% cut on the basis of the last audited accounts. My biggest concern is that the policies that have been adopted by the board, namely playing inexperienced players and appointing inexperienced coaches is leading to a massive fall in revenue, both now and especially next year with (I suspect) a significant fall in season ticket holders. This, more than anything else, threatens the club's future. Of course I cannot prove this but I can state my position to the Bank and ask them to note my concerns. I will now go back to lurking on this forum...I do hope when we go into administration you will feel good seeing the poor employees at the bottom who are really hurt by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Amongst a sad bunch of posts this week this post has to be the saddest. Its only a game FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Amongst a sad bunch of posts this week this post has to be the saddest. Its only a game FFS. Might be to you, but to the late great Bill Shankley it was not. I find it hard to believe that we have to put up with a previously failed leader who has no interest in the beautiful game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Barclays Bank 4th floor, Apex Plaza, Forbury Road, Reading. RG1 1AX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 barclays will be reluctant to do anything,because of their sponsorship of the prem they cannot be seen to be destroying a club because of a relatively small debt compared to others. i admire your spirit but i think you should channel it into other ways of bringing about change........i dont know what that is but somebody better work something out soon or we will be relegated. If only that first line were true, but I really don't believe it is, not anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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