Fabrice29

He’s not necessarily my choice either. Nor was he anyone’s choice but the owners the day Still went but just wanting experience for the sake of it just doesn’t stack up. An experienced managed doesn’t get the season back on track. A good manager does and a good manager doesn’t necessarily have experience. Agree we sEm to be splitting hairs. My issue, as it was last week, is with people who were getting apoplectic because we’d trusted somebody without experience and others who were actively suggesting proven bad managers because they had experience.

It can certainly add value and I'd be happy to see some on the dugout but it doesn't dictate outcomes and it doesn't deserve the value it's given on this forum by some. This is a whole different arguement but I'd put it out there we have one of the smallest first 11's in the league and therefore 3 CB's becomes more needed rather than a question mark. I shudder at the thought of us defending set pieces for example with an 11 that doesn't include one of those 3 and includes another attacking player who presumably isn't as effective in the air.

Defenders who aren't very good at defending their box and keepers who aren't very good at saving shots.

Anyway, back on topic. Can we all agree that experience isn't and has never been a factor in the outcome of a football match? Given Norwich appointed a proper experienced actual football manager and started with a resounding defeat yesterday. So when we inevitably lose this week or next week that there is probably other reasons to be looked at over the managers experience or what formation he's chosen to start us of in.

Agreed, its not passing out of the back that is the problem. It's the quality of what we do further up the field. That's why I was disputing with the people who were annoyed with the playing out of the back.

It's sad that I'm doing this, so I wont deep dive it and a wider camera angle would be lovely to really analyse but I wanted to just check this comment. The pass just been after 17 seconds is in the recycling at the back category rather than a bold between the line pass but it's the one that starts this move (Wood to Bragg). Just inside the shot at 17 seconds a player has been dragged out of position in the midfield to close down an inevitable pass out to THB which then begins the bold passing you're impressed with. But THB cant make that pass if the said player holds his position in CM and in fact Bragg doesn't make that pass if they haven't manipulated the midfielder to break their shape and make it (The exact same pass combination happens at 7 seconds, 10 seconds prior). The whole tactic and reasoning and plus side is all their in those 17 seconds prior to the pass you are impressed by. It's a game of patience. The Charlton player resists the urge to close down THB after 7 seconds but doesn't resist it the 2nd time the exact same passing combination is made and once they've made one player jump the gaps become open enough to try and exploit.

Correct. As we have continued to do.

We scored lots of goals under Russy hun xxx

You could cut it out of the clip if you wanted to ignore it yes. Which many do when it works how it's intended but they are the quickest to bring it up when it doesn't. But for "two consecutive bold between the line passes" or as the post above says "the correct way of playing out of the back" to actually happen space needs to be there to play into. That needs to be manipulated by dragging players out of position with movement and also with initial passes that don't do that. So yes, you can cut it out of the clip if you like but it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Now guess what, like everything in football it's not going to work every time and other teams will work on stopping that. There will continue to be frustrating times when passes are short, players make bad decisions, or the opposition are going to read it and get there first. That will also happen in other parts of the pitch as well. We'll also do it really well at times but a player in midfield or up front will lose it and it'll never get commented on. We'll also do it and the striker will miss a sitter but again, it will never get commented on. People will continue to shout loudest when it doesn't work and attempt to cut it out of the clip when it does. That's the game. But to be clear, it's not just a coincidence that our best performance for a while comes when a manager actively encourages it through selection and coaching and it all starts with a back 4 who are trusted to do it, presumably because the last time they were actively encouraged to do it through selection and coaching in this league it resulted in goals and results.

Bloody playing out the back when we have a lead etc.

Think he'd be cursing the finishing today and against Swansea for example.

3 at the back and the players like him oh no!

It’ll be even more tin pot when the same people say stuff like ‘focus on your own team’ when he inevitably makes a comment afterwards.

Ignore the posts then you muppet. Or something.

😳 You still leaving a laughing emoji on every single post btw?