Fabrice29

Via the Nations League I believe, rather than the actual qualifiers.

Let’s be real, he didn’t have the players to immediately play the physical direct football he wanted to but was sold a long term project. By the time we’d recruited some to help him he’d lost the fan base and the owners shit the bed, just as they have continued to do so since once the fanbase turns.

Won’t be available until after March at the very earliest. Still have a chance of the World Cup

That headline/opening paragraph has done him dirty there. The question he was asked was clearly loaded (classic Blackmore) about senior players deliberately getting Still sacked and the answers turned into ‘players not to blame’ without the context of the question.

He played a lot of young players if that’s insightful.

Weird little thread this. Wildly speculating about a kids mental health and career choices. Even wilder when you consider his career choice currently sees him being part of a PL squad at the age of 19. Not convinced Moyes is right for him but give it a few months / year and I suspect he’ll be under a manager better for him and coming into his own like any normal 20 old footballer. All in a league above us, where he supposedly should have stayed.

Don’t necessarily disagree but an outsider will just say ‘won the last two since your ownership decided to get rid of the manager didn’t you? Feels like a good thing?’

This is exactly the issue with the ‘experience’ arguement. People make it subjective and start randomly picking the bits they trust and feel good about. Hindsight can also be a wonderful subjective thing too.

Contrary to popular belief we’ve had quite a lot of experienced players and managers under SR. Only Selles and Rusk actually are similar manager wise. Jones, Martin and Still all had ample managerial experience but were just younger so people didn’t trust it and Juric also had plenty of experience. Player wise also we’ve got plenty of experienced crap but again, because it’s crap it hasn’t worked out and again people much prefer to focus on the young/inexperienced signings instead.

I think I said recently I wouldn’t be choosing to keep him on necessarily. I’m not leaning that way. I’m just pointing out that’s it’s nice to have won a couple of games, the idea we’ve played two crap teams so it doesn’t count doesn’t really stack up either and maybe let the bed wetting wait until there’s something worth wetting the bed over. Not many inspiring names about though IMO and I’m always in favour of appointing someone promising and someone the players like over someone ‘experienced/proven themselves incapable of managing a club to any decent degree elsewhere’

If we had appointed an actual real life manager and failed the acid test would we have to sack them?

Yeah don’t really understand the fascination with beefing up the midfield when we have plenty of options in there. Fitness issues in there are an issue though. Plus it’s lovely PR play from the club with him and OR signing, so I suspect that’s behind any motivation to do it. Think it smacks of playing to the crowd which Solak especially is keen to do.

Rather than big long winded conspiracies analysing every action and non action of one man have we considered that our strikers weren’t very good for quite large chunks of the season, neither was our keeper or goalkeeper and suddenly against QPR and Sheff Wednesday we were a bit more efficient at both ends of the pitch and absolutely none of it is some finite confirmation that either Will Still or TE are brilliant or terrible?

How long does instant respect last? Can you lose it? Can it be earned?

We played terrible opposition before TE took over and didn’t win so maybe he’s the messiah.