Fabrice29

Apart from the fact he’s a terrible football manager based on his experiences in football management recently. There’s also absolutely zero alignment between a Tonda Eckert side and a Sean Dyche one so would make zero sense

It’s two different organisations doing the punishing though. The FA are not going to leave it because the EFL have already done something. Thats aside from the obvious fact that an individual also doesn’t get waved through with zero repercussions just because it’s already indirectly affected him. Whatever happens here, and it could well be zero punishment at all, it’s not going to be cause a different organisation already punished Tondas employers who have subsequently left Tonda in charge. If they do punish Tonda and it affects the club, it’s because the club have left him in charge. (Which they have chosen to do and have briefed that it won’t have a big affect, so fingers crossed that comes through). If we didn’t want it to affect us as a club again, we could have removed him ourselves but we’ve obviously assessed its worth it.

I think you’ve both misunderstood the roles.

I have no idea what a suitable punishment is. Nor even if the FA will decide a punishment of any sort is due. But the idea that a ruling body would say ‘fair enough, the clubs been kicked out and he’s missed out on a potential shot at a bonus (not even an actual bonus, just a shot at it), no further action’ is daft. The club being kicked out is not a punishment for the individual which is evident by you correctly stating it’s the club that’s been kicked out. Any internal repercussions or side effects of people missing an opportunity are exactly that. No reputable organisation would conclude that a company being punished is the same as an individual.

Arguing that somebody not getting a huge bonus is punishment enough for any breaking of rules is grotesque. No idea what the outcome of this will be but I find the narrative that Tonda has been punished already laughable, because he quite literally hasn’t. It’s not about beating ourselves up, it’s a pretty basic principle.

Quite a while ago according to @MB right? Anyway, yes I tend to agree. Club have been briefing for quite a while that they don’t expect a huge punishment for Eckert. So let’s hope their briefings are on point this time around.

Well it’s a pretty dumb basic thrust isn’t it? That’s the problem. Because the guy who orchestrated the whole thing has yet to be punished, which is what the hearing is about.

Not a fan of Parsons, or this interview, especially the stuff about we’ve already been punished etc given it’s pretty irrelevant to a hearing for an individual but a) he isn’t going to come out telling the world we’ve got plans in place to replace a manager we don’t want to replace. b) it’s also probably not his job to have that in place. That’ll be Spors to sort out the plan if his man has to go.

Really don’t think Boro catching us in the act of something they found out we were doing previously and likely to do against them, that’s against the rules, is the big drama you guys seem to think it is. Seems a perfectly reasonable response.

Doubt anyone was dismissive, just pointed out that leaving was absolutely the right thing to do for everyone

Ask @MB

Right at the end, around 30 minutes. Swansea my guess.

Assume it’s not this one but found it interesting Tonda said in a press conference recently there’s a game coming up we’ll likely go 5 in midfield like we did at Coventry last season.

Look at that, someone with a balanced view, high expectations and willing to let results do the talking without making daft statements. It can be done!

You only think this because I told you to stop worrying before the end of August and a day or two before we stuffed Millwall. I’m just of the belief the results will tell us how things are…my bad.