Fabrice29

All the classic cliche suggestions here. Couple of players they’ve heard of from links in the media. Random guy from Germany who is good on a computer game/YT video. Young keeper from a relegated club. Younger brother of really good player and then a random loan for a ex player they think is out of favour at their new club but in reality is injured and will have zero interest in coming back. Zero thought for any of the cash involved or practicalities of signing any of them if they were available. Might get one right so they can act like they know wheat they are on about a while later and will certainly get nowhere near the others but they will be good somewhere else so they can say ‘ I told ya we should have got him’.

This is also another myth about JWP. He wanted European football and got it.

It was twice, against Liverpool and Chelsea I think. But if this fella didn’t see the other games then it didn’t happen.

Understand the valid arguments about the benefits Lallana can bring us now (there’s valid arguments either way) but really think people need to get over the way he left us thing now.

34 Premier league starts. 3 sub appearances. Joint combined most of any West Ham player.

Interesting this reaction compared to Burnley’s public pursuit of Tella last summer btw.

Hardly trawled through posts. Click on any page on the Russell Martin thread and you will likely come across hysterical posters making statements that even at the time were absurd, rash and ripe for laughing at. Let alone a few weeks later.

Any of these.

Does that explain why we conceded at will for years before he came too?

Incredible sentence

I think it's fair to say Bayern opted for various people before Kompany but were turned down consistently.

We'd have celebrated a goal and enjoyed the moment in 2017 if we had VAR.

The idea that managers like Martin and Kompany chose a certain way to play and avoid ‘getting it in the mixer’ even if it would help their club, is daft, not least because a) it’s not true but also b) it doesn’t stack up. Swansea went pragmatic straight after Martin, and guess what, it wasn’t successful. Kompanys tactics got them an incredible season and therefore changing his way would arguably be detrimental to the players he recruited and based on the fact the other two teams who went down with them were ‘pragmatic’ there’s no evidence it would have got different/better results.

Adrian Clarke has hated us and Martin all season so he’s suddenly changed his tune.

It's probably as safe as assuming anyone who didn't want to be in the family area wouldn't purchase tickets there.

Yes, and it's a daft point.

I've grasped the point being made, you seem to think managers actively play a certain way to attract higher jobs and seem to think they negate getting the best out of their current players in their pursuit to do so. However the point completely fails to grasp the fact that playing a certain way is also a conduit for success, as per most successful teams in Europe. And citing Dyche and Allardyce as examples of "gets the best out of their players" isn't a particularly good retort because they quite clearly aren't very successful.

Except the team who finished 2nd didn't get it in the mixer every time and neither do most successful teams in Europe.

On the basis Souness used Allardyce as an example (according to the above) and Allardyce has had 2 relegations in his last 2 jobs and the fan base of his 3rd last job hate him, I’m actually going to conclude he was not spot on. It’s absolutely correct, normal and to be expected that managers who coach more entertaining football are more sought after than managers who don’t.

They did

You think we've sold near 35k to ST holders only?

They already have a world class midfielder to be fair and I fully expect him to replace KDB at City this summer.

That behind the scenes footage Saints uploaded today has shown him up.

They have literally rewarded loyalty