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Mental.

Surely by insisting on a wage at all, ALL these "professional" mercenaries are being completely selfish, rather than just those part of the loan market ? Alpine for Amateurism !

We were discussing Martin hoofing it into the stand, whether he was any good at containing Davies wasn't particularly relevant to the discussion.

You wouldn't want to be complaining he was overused either would you ?

Bloody FIVE QUID bloody deposit they want at Game in Eastleigh - this after the bloke first told me they "didn't have any record of it coming out", then that they "didn't have a pre-order" and then that it was "free", despite the fact that the whole time it said the name and release date of the game, codes for both formats, and "£5 DEPOSIT" on the sheet in front of him. Was all set to get a loyalty card to replace the one the ex had, and then amusingly instead my details caused all their tills to crash. Ho hum.

Maybe he just didn't want to talk to a bloke obsessed with cutting his own head off ?

I think there are a lot of assumptions in the OP, there are plenty of reasons not to have played Waigo in the team other than "personality clash". I couldn't tell you how integral Guly's going to be until I actually see him kick a ball and how he reacts to League One and the other 10 blokes on his own team, but based on the YouTube video he likes to drive forward with the ball, seems comfortable out side, has a decent shot and... um... let's hope we're playing Lecce a lot.

Ah well, you live by the sword... etc. I didn't actually go to that one, went to V and got let down by Oasis instead, so I can't put it in context.

I said "first results", which I could happily define as the first 3 if I wish - you seem to have chosen to ignore Millwall (promoted), Swindon (P-O runners-up) and Huddersfield (PO SF losers) in pursuit of a frankly spurious point. I will readily agree we were utter shart at Swindon too, but the improvement was tangible from Birmingham on. Not that it has any relevance to this season anyway, the preparation should be like chalk and cheese for taking a team of League favourites on a hot streak for most of the previous season compared to the CCC kiddie loser relegation admin refugees of 2009's summer.

Strangely, last year's mystical "click" happened with the old rejects plus Harding and Lambert giving an excellent account of themselves for 60 minutes against Birmingham - but the 2nd Round of the League Cup was after we'd played 4 league games last time around. After that we only lost one game to Bristol Rovers out of 14 until Brighton home, with confidence increasing all the time (though we drew too many). Funnily enough, when you look at who we played last season in the league and where they ended up (all in the Play-Offs), our first results don't look all that bad now : Football League One Southampton 1-1 Millwall 08-08-2009 English League Cup Southampton 2-0 Northampton 11-08-2009 Football League One Huddersfield 3-1 Southampton 15-08-2009 Football League One Swindon 1-0 Southampton 18-08-2009 Football League One Southampton 1-1 Brentford 22-08-2009 English League Cup Southampton 1-2 Birmingham

Practically every thread on this Forum about our poor start mentions Norwich last season at some point. It's an anomaly unlikely to be repeated any time soon, rather than a convenient indicator of how poor starts can lead to success - and it's not even that similar to our start in the first place. Even if we lose the next 4 we can still refer to Quinn/Keane's Sunderland, or look at Palace under Dowie circa 2003 or Hull's late run into the Prem - but none of these are typical, they're exceptional or everyone would be doing it. As it happens I agree with you that the criticism is OTT, but we haven't got the results and improvement will come from Saints, not from relating the situation to other past anomalies, when for every one of those there are 23 other teams not doing the same thing.

But this is fair comment. Which is why I wonder if it was The Fear that had hold of Martin on Tuesday. Not always a bad thing, but better players deal with it with confidence. Which is not to say he won't get used to it, and not to say he won't be alright at CB in League One in the meantime - but Jaidi's been there and done that already. There's almost certainly going to be a crossover period of assimilation alongside Fonte, which will also involve Seaborne competing for that place.

Oh yeah, cos Fat Kev's known for his pace in closing defenders down... the Bolton strikers didn't get enough decent ball from their reserve midfielders to pose many problems in the first place.

Funnily enough the other alternative to taking the rise out of people for spelling was starting a "show us your medals" debate...

Bloody hell, that's the best post I've seen on here for ages.

Oh you mean like the Instalment Plan ?

Rickie Lambert's song did (one home match after the cringeworthy handing out of song sheets utterly failed to get the song going). Various Lallana songs are still doing the rounds in patches too. I hope the Barnard one isn't "our" fault.

I thought it was a fairly unexpected response from the club to a complaint about Police behaviour, but then it is in line with his pragmatic approach. It's not the club making this happen so he doesn't give a toss whose fault it is and wants it sorted out. Fair enough.

Yoinks, can we have a written constitution, sharpish ? That's in law ?!!?!?

No, I'm right and they're all wrong. Obviously. Weirdo. PS, if you want some evidence, look at the spelling of Seaborne - empirically verifiable proof that most people on this thread are wrong. Sheesh, I never thought I'd have to resort to MLG levels.

FWIW I haven't even looked at a PES site since 2009, and I thought both games were flawed in the 09 incarnations. I almost liked FIFA09 but it did too many un-footbally things, and FIFA10 was the first game actually worth playing since PES6 on PS2 (and 360 to a much lesser degree). They're going to have to make some very loud noises at Konami with a playable game with unlimited editable options and creation modes which has useful league and career modes, and an effective online experience to enable sharing, just to get me even looking again. On the 360. FIFA have done the smart thing with a PC-based Creation Centre, way more functionality and convenience than any console options would have even with my controller keypad add-on !

Found an interesting article on Shirt Sponsorships yesterday... http://www.footballeconomy.com/content/shirt-sponsorship-deals-soar Blackpool are getting £500k for a Premier League season. We wouldn't be getting anything like that, it's a drop in the ocean compared to player salaries and transfers, even at this level.

How could "True, it doesn't. It just prevents you from forming an informed, accurate opinion" possibly be construed as a "personal insult" ? Oh, right, I see what you did. I think.

Whilst constantly resorting to "look at Norwich last season" is somewhat misleading given that there are very few other examples of sides getting utterly thrashed in their first game and winning the division, there's a lot to be said for the view that we could take any two games from last season and make a league table of it. eg Walsall home and Huddersfield home, or if you want to be pessimistic, Bristol Rovers and Swindon home. We're all dealing in degrees of probability here, just from different perspectives. I'm slightly concerned but still confident that we're at least going to match last season's performance, which would see us in the Play-Offs - and then there's the Guly Factor, and what he might bring.

Sarcasm really doesn't suit you, I should think most people have just assumed you're an idiot.