Chez

very.

is it really possible to get home end tickets at this sort of game?

They offer 1200 tickets normally for away fans in the Dutch league games. My googling tells me that Liverpool got 1500 way back in 2002 for a Europa cup game. If that's the allocation I would suggest it won't get past season ticket holders. I might be wrong.

sorry, that's what I meant, Toulouse to somewhere in Germany. Not sure the Dusseldorf flight is direct which will mean 7 hours there and back.

what about flying out from Toulouse?

does this round get on TV?

for the 1200 or so that will get a ticket http://www.stadiumguide.com/gelredome/

5th in Dutch league sounds relatively tough to me for an opening game.

bloody hope not. I can;t make the away game and I want at least one overseas football trip next season.

6th August.

Vitesse it is

think so.

I think it's the same link for the Europa League draw, but if you are desperate to have the words `europa league' in the url then it's: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2016/draws/index.html

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2016/draws/round=2000632/index.html live now

The number of tickets available to away fans might be an issue for the two easiest grounds to get to. Charleroi is now just a 14k stadium and Vitesse only offer about 1200 tickets for away fans normally.

we will get Charleroi. I know this because I am in Israel on the 6th August, so you can bet you bottom dollar we will get the winner of their tie with Beitar Jeruselum, and as they are 5-1 up, its a foregone conclusion. So near, yet so far.

Danny Wallace. Pretty sure it was his disgruntled agent that angled for the move. Personally I never felt it would work at United (lots of good players seemed to flop around that time) and Southampton seemed very much like his adopted home having left London as a youngster.

who says they are overspending and getting players in they can't afford? Their income dwarfs the rest of the teams in that league so they can afford to outbid and out pay other teams for players.

Great Adidas ball, but how **** does the Adidas logo look plonked in the middle of the shirt...

Have to say that when saw him play for the first team I thought he looked a great prospect withScholes like tendencies and couldn't understand us letting him go, but then again I only saw a few cameos so found it hard to argue with those that saw him on regular basis. We certainly had a lot of CM at the time.

Recruitment yes, the rest of those elements I'd say no (all the teams do that these days) and perhaps that is the same with SKY - their better recruitment is the reason they are running away with the tour again. Hope that is the case and not something else.

The analysis on the clinic is certainly unnerving. I thought SKY were whiter than white, but the the suggestions are that the power improvements despite weight loss and the ability to excel in both time trials and in the mountains is just not possible without doping. I hope that is not the case. Armstrong broke my tour de France loving heart, so to find out the new cleaner tour won by clean riders is actually a sham would be unforgivable.

my memory isn't great, but I recall there being strong rumours on here that the fee was actually only £200,000 up front and the rest later. Whether that was to deflect the unhappiness about shelling out on a nipper rather than a senior pro I don't know, but that lower amount would certainly fit with the Lowe we all 'love'.

I disagree in that Lowe did deviate from his system when employing bagpus. He then gambled big by giving him the money to spend and wages on new players, without red**** having to sell before bringing them in. Ultimately that gamble failed and tied his hands the following season as he desperately had to sell players to try and balance the books. He did a very good job of squeezing money out of Liverpool when the reality was we were in desperate trouble. By and large the summer was wasted getting players out rather than getting the right ones in, but saggychops still should have done better with the players we had left. Pretty much every side that goes down struggles. Lowe would have ensured we at least could balance the books, however Wilde's gamble nearly killed us.

Why not? player agents will have heard about the new tv deal too.