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from th eall be it limited number of times I have seen them, the latest batch don't seem to contain players that are quite ready yet. Not all players can waltz into a premiership side at 17, 18 or 19. Even Target has a little way to go yet.

yep and I can't see Clyne putting in a transfer request either. He doesn't need to. With only a year left he can sit tight and either wait for Saints to crack and accept an offer from Liverpool or stay and collect a bumper new pay check in 12 months time.

two signings already. WTF are people going to moan about on here now?

no win, no fee?

It's about time the owners considered the fans...

Which is where our views differ. IMO our away strip is basically Chelsea's away strip from a few years ago, but in a worse colour choice. You disagree because there is a 2015 mesh making it different and/or unique. Let's agree to disagree.

Good point. The fact we have a shirt design that is several years old, a small it of beading apart, just adds to the shytness of this Adidas shirt launch.

and for one day this summer for the special price of just £10...they will have sliding fat too

I met Ken a few years ago when the Portsmouth/Saints `bubble' was being first introduced. Ken played an active role in the football supporters federation and he visited my home to deliver leaflets about the bubble for me to hand out to Saints fans travelling to the game. We had a long chat about the game in general and the way fans are treated. We seemed to have very similar views on that subject. Like for myself, the bubble was quite inconvenient, as he lived in Devon, but more than that he felt it was very important that football fans were treated with respect and not seen to be criminals. I certainly can't claim to say that I know him, but just going on that single encounter I can say that he was understanding and more than happy to listen to the views of any football fans, even Saints supporters! I know all the arguments on here about the skates ignoring the previous track record of its owners and doing little while the sun shined, but I have nothing but respect for the likes of Ken who worked tirelessly to save their football club. He didn't personally create the mess, but he did a bloody fine job in helping to clear it up afterwards. As someone that enjoys the rivalry and relishes the games between the two, I thank him for his efforts that will eventually see the two clubs meet again, whereupon we can hopefully absolutely stuff them. I suspect should that happen, Ken would very much see the bright side of things.

I think my point was made clearly and precisely in the earlier post. The colours and design are shyte IMO. I don't really like Adidas kits in general and IMO the club should get a unique design. In the post you have quoted and where I have inserted photos I was merely pointing out that if we have to have this design couldn't a better combination of colours be selected. I have struggled to find a worse pair - in fact all the ones I have shown are better than the green/blue. Obviously the points I have made are my views and they differ from yours, but that is allowed you know.

I would say this was exactly the reason (plus some other decent showing for us when Arsenal scouts no doubt attended) - he tore them apart that night.

I have no problem with no yellow/blue away kits either. I absolutely loved the Umbro white pin stripe kit and still think that is the best kit we have ever had, but this latest away kit is shyte both in design and colour. I agree with Lostboys, a yellow and blue version of this design would look better. Could another colour combination look worse? 2014 this is from 2012! 2013 Our version looks like one of the `we are the champions tv show team colours'

I don't like it at all. Personally I'm not a fan of the sash. It's a Crystal Palace thing in my eyes. The 125 year kit was fine, but the use here isn't anything to do with our history, its all to do with Adidas and them wanting to get their bog standard designs on the backs of professional players. I have to say the combination of colours are drab and green kits in general just don't work for me. Plymouth, fine, the rest should leave the colour to keepers (enjoyed the fact our keepers returned to green this year - even if the badge was treated exceptionally badly on them). Actually I especially hate the way the club badge is treated here too. Going for a montone colour scheme makes it disappear into the blandness of the shirt and dare I say it cheapens it. With these drab colours you need `accent colours and features (badge, addidas logo) to lift the ordinariness of the shirt in much the same way the gold items on the Championship promotion shirt did to great effect. I see this as just another generic Adidas kit, but in `our' colours, not that they are even that. I know its been done to death with the home shirt, but I would expect something designed exclusively for Saints not simply a shirt to promote Adidas' club kits. The current away strip is much better than this. If I'm honest I really don't like Adidas kits. Their `bar chart' style badge is naff - they should return the old one, the three stripe branding makes everything so,...oh I don't know, rigid and conformist? In general I prefer the Nike kits, they feel much more exclusive and original, and they tend to use their branding in a much more delicate way. Adidas just ram the three stripes down your throat. I'm sure there will be a counter argument here, but that's my perception. All just my opinion of course. I wouldn't ever buy one of these things, but I do like my club to be seen in the highest regard, be that performance on the pitch, treatment of fans or even design of shirt. This shirt let's the side down fractionally, but I won't lose sleep over it.

or if unavailable, Council leader Donna kebab Jones is perfectly placed to fill that red and white swimsuit...right up to its breaking point. Donna is the svelt number on the right

is he quick and can he defend?

dockyard strikes and everything in here http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/business/local-business/spinnaker-tower-deal-pompey-fan-s-open-letter-to-emirates-boss-sir-tim-clark-1-6784574?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite

You and the 9 both seem to fail to grasp that genuine saints fans that perhaps go to five home games a year, a mixture of cat a, b and c now have to pay £25 more than they did last season to have a chance of getting that cat a ticket. Oh well never mind, if they are genuine saints football mugs they won't care about paying more.

Yeah being sponsored by a great local employer is crap, let's get one of those offshore betting companies, a legalised loan shark or some other tax dodging multinational, much better.

A sizeable number of saints fans go to the odd game you know. Bloody parasites...

Whats the point of having my side compete at the top table of it's too ****ing expensive to watch the bloody games? I presume you want CL football so bad that you're having your wages paid straight into the clubs bank account?

Who said anything about only going to one game? I could go to lots of cat C and B games, but when the cat A goes on sale I will be behind those that have forked out £25 for a membership and perhaps haven't been to any games all season? Tell me how that is fair? I repeat, if you are a non season ticket holder and you want to have any chance of going to a cat A game it will now cost you an extra £25.

I would love to see the look on Kenny Dalglish's face when nik nak asks him to pay for his match ticket, not to mention the reaction of fans when their next home kit is red and white stripes.

So if you are not a season ticket holder, but want to have any chance of going to a cat A game you need to spend an extra £25 for the pleasure. Sounds great.

Soul selling at its best. You have to feel for the Tory council having to cope with those cuts to funding. **** me do the mock ups make it look tacky. I suspect the final paint job will just have the Emirates logo on, as perhaps was always planned.

I can't see Shane Long ever being part of formidable strike force.