Chez

Hard to argue with that, unless Froome has burned so much energy he is open to attack tomorrow. Somehow I doubt that. Hope he attacks again...bloody good tour this by the way.

Lowe showed his weakness when appointing Wigley. He should I have learned his lesson after Gray, but he didn't and ultimately that was the start of our downfall. The flip side is that he not,only appointed Prost,but he was bold enough to back the youth development with £2m each year, which was a substantial amount of our budget. That money could have been invested in first team players, but Lowe saw the benefits and ultimately they had a major bearing on the future of the club.

Losing out on Toby and allowing Morgan to leave is going to create a huge hole in the spine of our side. I think fans underestimate how hard it will be to replace Morgan.

Agreed, although a firing JROD is going to be with a hell of a lot more than the £7m we paid for him.

No, but if we talk about it enough, when we don't sign him or he goes elsewhere we can have good old moan.

He has a Relatively new girlfriend, and possibly one reason why he doesn't want to consider moving to a team abroad.

If he is the 'Toby replacement' then no reason why he couldn't get plenty of games.

any player that leaves us now that we are in the top flight and challenging for UEFA spots can ****ing do one (unless we have released them). I don't wish them well. I hope they are ****ing useless, because if they do play well they are most likely to help their teams come above us. Having said that I know why they leave and I would likely do the same in their shoes (although the legacy and love you get from fans from being at a single club might tempt me otherwise) - doesn't mean I have to like it.

Jesus that was bad, as was his display against Watford that same season. Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas and then substitute Oliver Lancashire all in first away game in league 1 at Huddersfield come close though.

Just waiting for the tesco to be hooked up to the mains so they can borrow some leccy to power them

In England it used to be 50% up front, remainder by end of first year (not including add on obviously), whilst players signed from abroad was spread across the period of the contract. Perhaps that has changed, or perhaps I am mistaken.

Really? My impression is that If United don't meet our valuation, whatever that is, he will be going nowhere. What that figure is, only we know, but It will be less than we are publicly asking and more than United are currently offering. We are not actually looking to flog him, we are just more up front these days in terms of admitting that every player has a price.

United sign Schweinsteiger, we keep Morgan. Happy days. Simple as that, unless of course Arsenal come back with a £25m offer. Isn't Schweinsteiger ageing though?

are you saying Clasie is not a good player so won't shine immediately, or are you saying he is a good player but will need time to find his feet in a different league? Not sure I follow you. Tadic was up to speed immediately. Mind you he had a preseason. With Djuricic I would say it was more about his lack of fitness than needing to find his feet in the Prem.

Yes...ok, so I don't know, but that quote from Clasie suggests he has been sounded out, his agent has been primed and he knows the score. He will sit tight and wait for the Morgan deal to conclude. He, like us knows it will happen. United won't walk away from this deal, they will just drag their feet before stumping up the figure we wanted all along. The club certainly has no reason to try and rush it through if it means a smaller fee. Personally I'd prefer us to try and price him out of the market, he's that good a player. I've not seen Clasie, but he will have to be mint for us to not go backwards.

I suspect Clasie is doing just that, in fact his recent comments: "I have read Koeman's comments. If Schneilderlin leaves, we will see." With regards to pre-season, Toby joined last day of August. He slotted in immediately. Football is a very simple game. Top players don't need weeks of preseason to know how to play. The side as a whole, yes, but not individual players.

the players to replace him have been identified. They will know that the move is dependant on Morgan going. If they fancy coming here they won't make a decision to go elsewhere now, they will bide their time to ensure they get the best deal. I don't buy in too much to needing to have a pre-season with us. Good players will slot in almost instantly. Better to get a better player late then a lessor player early. In short, lets hold out for the full £30m. Morgan is top notch and we should get top dollar for him.

New north stand to be discussed at next board meeting which, with their delusions of grandeur will no doubt morph into a new ground discussion (ten whole thousand season tickets sold after all)?

he looked as bad a centre back as I have seen away at Sheffield United - I assume that is the game you are referring to?

they could lose Lloris and Morgan is off to United.

I wonder what effect losing out on Toby will have on Wanyama. There were strong noises about him wanting to join Arsenal in the press and if Morgan leaves I wonder if he will angle for a move on the basis that we are once again not retaining out top talent. Never dull at Saints is it.

you don't hang about, do you? I suspect you'll gets dogs abuse for raising that, but should Morgan AND Wanyama join Toby and Clyne (plus Forster injury) then we probably will have to pull some more rabbits out of hats. Hopefully we won't have to.