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Dean `Rugby League' Windass is a legend in 'ull, but sadly his best days have passed.

I don't hence my constant moaning about Skacel

last season had some similar traits to the relegation season - three coaches in a season - the second being totally out of their depth - failure to find a decent injury free centre back

I posted something along the same lines a few weeks back after the Bristol City game. Every fan was filmed there as they walked up the steps to get in the ground. I completely object to this and see it is a breach of my civil liberties. What next? Coppers taking DNA samples or tagging football fans just in case something happens at some point somewhere in their football watching lives? I have no issue with the police at all. I appreciate the job they do and am under no illusion that there is trouble at games and they do a decent job of protecting innocent supporters. Having said all that I think they are overstepping the mark filming everyone and I think they need to appreciate that every day normal people that have no inclination of acting up at the football deeply object to this practice.

we embaress ourselves time after time. On the one hand we allow ex skates like Routledge to avoid any stick whatsoever then we get mugs abusing a player that will down in Saints folklore for scoring in the semi.

is it ****. Lazy and lacking in pace yes but poor first touch never.

normally I'd agree but there have been several games in the last couple of seasons that seemed to turn when the entire crowd started singing red and white army or OWTS continuously. The players seemed to react and up their levels leading to goals. Coinicidence perhaps but certainly noticeable.

I have considered this carefully and I have to say that when I can't attend an away game for any reason (bloody family weddings during the footie season pah) it hurts more when we lose and I have only been able to listened to the game or see the result on teletext. If I am at the game I can get things off my chest (apologies to anyone sat near me when I vent my frustration at yet another aimless hoof from Wotton), understand how the game went, see the effort players put in, witness the hardluck stories first hand and in general see what happened and understand that the game is not just all about the result. If you don't attend then the result is all you have so if it doesn't go the right way it hurts like hell. For that reason I wholeheartedly disagree that remote fans feel less pain when Saints struggle. Non attendees for any reason perhaps feel it more than me.

if its a do or die game for both then you can bet Forest fasn will be out in their numbers so that may limit the tickets we can take.

what on earth makes you think that there is spare cash. I think every last penny and more is being spent on fan favourite `Saganowski'. Fish and Bart are on peanuts. Who the hell do you hope to bring in using the great wads of money saved?

apologies to you and Alpine. Neither of you specifically effect my posting patterns, but those of you that deride posters for having hope just make the forum less appealing. I actually predicted in the summer that we would be relegated and it looks like I will be proved right, but you don't see me rubbing that in peoples faces OR stopping me hoping that we turn Blackpool over and give ourselves a fighting chance of survival.

people go on and on about the cost all those that came in, but is the reality that all of them don't add up to Rasiaks wages never mind Johns and Saga's?

we lost £12.4m last year before player trading (£9.4m) got us out of jail. So that's £1m lossed each and every month. Just for the record the overdaft was at £4.4m when Lowe started again and other debt including the mortgage was £23.1m. That is ground zero as far as Lowe is concerned this time round - where we are finanically when the figures comes out are down to him completely - good or bad.

If you didn't mean to upset anyone or get a rise then why did you use the term `happy clappy'? Perhaps you need to look at your own part in why people can't be arsed with this forum any more. Certainly from my point of view the constant derision of anyone that has absolutely anything positive to say puts me off posting as often as I used to. That is just my opinion of course, others may have their own reasons for giving the forum a wide burth.

was he? I thought he looked decent. A few rash challanges but at least he got stuck in. He looked confident on the ball, decent in the air for a small guy and despite having no protection in front of him not all that much went past him. Far more impressive than Molyaneux thats for sure.

One of my favourites other than those already mentioned was Oldham away in 93, which saw about 2500 Saints fan celebrating an Oldham goal. Well actually we were celebrating West Ham scoring against Cambridge to ensure that it was they that went up and not the skates, but it was about 15 seconds after Oldham had just scored one of their four goals so it looked like we had gone totally mad. It was Benali day as I recall.

nice sarcasm, but unless I'm mistaken there is not an option to step outside the plane as there is at a football stadium.

I don't see why it would be expensive to set up at all. A small section for each home stand cordened off using a few temporary fences (like they have near the ticket office) with three or four stewards for each section. I doubt any extra stewards would need to be employed at all. Besides if you have paid your money for entry you should be able to come in and out of the ground as and when you want. Worst case scenario is that you have to queue to get back in, but so what that would be your choice. Where there is a will there is a way. Unfortunately there is NO will at the club and that is what some supporters appear to be complaining about on hear. Just like public houses, SFC needs to work around these new laws. Every paying fan needs to be accomodated as best as possible and this seems to be a relatively pain free way of pleasing people IMO. Oh and for the record I don't smoke.

Charlton can have a major bearing on who else goes down and as we have seen many times before once the pressure is off relegated teams often start winning games. Things look bleak, but then again they have all season and it comes as no surprise we are where we are.

not so sure the police get involved in making people sit down that much (unless there is some sort of confrontation between steward and supporter). Its Health & Safety that insist on people sitting down or we get no liscense. The club then uses the stwards to `try' to enforce that rule. I guess they then do just enough to show the HSE that they are trying to enforce this law. At present I think it works quite well as everyone knows where they stand (pardon the pun). If you want to stand you get a ticket near the back of the Northam or Itchen Block 3, if you don't then sit in any one of the 35+ other blocks.

there are no happy clappy fans on this board, they have never existed. As I have said previously people on here are either those that hope for better or those that prefer to deride those that hope.

Wotte bigged up Pulis' versatility recently. Time for him to prove it me thinks.

In Lallana's defence he is much more suited to a central role. He was at his best when played in middle - from there he could get on the ball and dictate the game. Out wide he lacks the pace and fitness to get up and down all day long. Right midfield continues to be a problem position and now with a right back out for two games that whole side is going to look weak whoever starts. What amazes me is how we have done so well when effectively only having Gillett in the middle. McGoldrick hardly ever gets goal side and he doesn't exactly stretch teams when going forward.

I find it straneg that people are suggesting Saturday was out "worst performance" and "gutless". We've played far worse this season - Blackpool at home for starters and I never thought we showed a lack of grit, passion and effort. A lack of `quality' is what I would point to and the reason we are where we are. Throughout the squad we have average players and that is why over the course of the season we let in goals and don't score enough of our own. The plus points from the game were that we looked much more solid (4-4-2 is certainly helping there along with Seijs), Gillett has found a role in the side, and...er struggling really as it was a boring game if I'm honest. The big negatives were Surman, Saga, McGoldrick and Lallana's performances - dreadful the lot of them. Lets hope for better at Blackpool. Davis 7 not a great deal to do. James 5 dreadful passing Seijs 9 playing very well, wins everything in the air Perry 7 doesn't win enough in the air but positional play was top class Skacel 5 did next to nothing going forward Gillett 9 was everywhere and didn't give the ball away or miscontrol much McGoldrick 5 doesn;t work hard enough fo a midfielder and not creative enough either Surman 2 as bad as Tuesday Lallana 2 as bad as Tuesday - get him in the middle Saga 2 as bad as Tuesday, no worse. Did nothing. Why was Patterson not on the bench? Euell 6 worked very hard and put himself abotu a lot but we needed that little extra bit of quality when the two chances came and went Thomson 5 pacey and beat his man but lacks the pysical strength needed and failed to compete for a single tackle. BWP 7 nice bright cameo.